Of course not. Where did I even say anything about that?
Legolas Send a noteboard - 24/01/2012 08:10:29 PM
You may recall that is how the article said Chinese suppliers could present Apple a warehouse full of glass samples to test: Because it cost the supplier nothing, thanks to government subsidies.
That's ultimately just some small gesture that nobody cares about when making real decisions. At most it grasped Apple's attention and forced them to give the Chinese supplier fair consideration. I didn't see anything about government subsidies playing a meaningful role in making that supplier the most competitive. The clustering of supporting industries and suppliers, on the other hand, was a real factor.
I am unsure what that has to do with the outsourcers contention they go overseas because America no longer produces workers with the education and skills for the demanding jobs they need done. Yet when I did manufacturing work before leaving the States all it required was a HS diploma or GED. The company was, however, in the process of building a Indonesian plant to take over a major product line our plant had been producing for years: Because the labor cost was lower.
I'm unsure why you seem to think it should have something to do with it, considering that I was talking about something else.
But if you want me to talk about that, fine. Outsourcing of genuinely low-skilled work is one thing, outsourcing of the iPhone and the like quite another. For one thing, the former is really all about the wage costs, and so some companies move from country to country several times, always looking for the next undeveloped country with low wages - Eastern Europe had such factories for a while, now they're leaving again. The latter is quite a different story and far more difficult to move from one country to another. The article said something about those Chinese workers being paid only USD 17 a day; while that is obviously well below Western minimum wages, it's several times what unskilled easily replaceable workers get. So when they talk about America not having those workers, what they mean is workers who *do* have a not insignificant amount of technical training and knowledge - and large amounts of such workers. I don't think it's so far-fetched to say the US and other European countries have too few of those, for a variety of reasons - people choosing less marketable careers, people being either under-educated or over-educated for it, and the like.
How U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work
- 21/01/2012 10:10:30 PM
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The sad fact is...
- 22/01/2012 02:56:46 AM
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I am SO sick of hearing this false rhetoric.
- 22/01/2012 06:39:07 PM
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Well, you're both presenting the far sides of the situation, surprisingly enough.
- 23/01/2012 10:22:23 AM
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Well, yes, I do realize there are people out there too good for decent jobs.
- 23/01/2012 10:44:57 AM
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Re: Well, yes, I do realize there are people out there too good for decent jobs.
- 23/01/2012 11:29:53 AM
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I don't believe its false. I believe its true. As seen, daily, by myself.
- 25/01/2012 07:11:00 PM
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You probably aren't aware that even though it is a crime in China...
- 23/01/2012 04:59:27 AM
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I guess threatening mass suicide isn't a big fuss?
- 23/01/2012 10:25:48 PM
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According to the NYT article "nothing like Foxconn City exists in the United States."
- 24/01/2012 10:58:56 AM
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It will be acceptable as long as the US remains a market for products made that way.
- 22/01/2012 06:10:20 PM
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It always kind of cracks me up when people bitch about China when...
- 23/01/2012 05:04:36 AM
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People really should read the rest of the article and not just the first page.
- 23/01/2012 11:21:39 PM
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Are you saying the US should heavily subsidize its supplies like the Chinese government does?
- 24/01/2012 11:15:37 AM
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Re: Are you saying the US should heavily subsidize its supplies like the Chinese government does?
- 24/01/2012 01:06:51 PM
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The difference is there would be tremendous hue and cry over such subsidies in the US.
- 25/01/2012 11:39:04 AM
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Of course not. Where did I even say anything about that?
- 24/01/2012 08:10:29 PM
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You did not say it, but citing the importance of cheaper supplies suggests it.
- 25/01/2012 11:10:04 AM
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What a bunch of shit.
- 24/01/2012 01:33:19 AM
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Maybe you could share something less shitty? *NM*
- 24/01/2012 10:12:38 AM
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Perhaps, but he's spot-on regarding on China's industrial and currency policies. *NM*
- 24/01/2012 01:12:44 PM
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Then he could surely find something to share.
- 24/01/2012 03:01:00 PM
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What is was all about amounts to America playing by softball rules in a hardball game.
- 24/01/2012 11:27:30 PM
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