We have a certification process that any college grad with common sense could pass.
Burr Send a noteboard - 28/01/2012 10:36:29 PM
Hence why there are so many teachers without teaching degrees.
I've got a degree in teaching history at a secondary level; but if it weren't that I didn't have the work experience to go through alternate certification, I'd have done as well to have majored in history. I'd have done even better to have majored in mathematics, since that's what I'm actually teaching this year. I couldn't find a job teaching history, so I took the mathematics certification test and passed. Now I'm a math teacher.
I'm grateful for the job, and I'm proud of how I'm doing under the circumstances; but can I honestly say an occupation which is so flexible in its qualifications is a profession? And most teachers, at least in my area of the world, are less educated and more outdated than myself.
I'm all for the push to professionalize the occupation; but from what I've experienced, I think we've got a long way to go.
I've got a degree in teaching history at a secondary level; but if it weren't that I didn't have the work experience to go through alternate certification, I'd have done as well to have majored in history. I'd have done even better to have majored in mathematics, since that's what I'm actually teaching this year. I couldn't find a job teaching history, so I took the mathematics certification test and passed. Now I'm a math teacher.
I'm grateful for the job, and I'm proud of how I'm doing under the circumstances; but can I honestly say an occupation which is so flexible in its qualifications is a profession? And most teachers, at least in my area of the world, are less educated and more outdated than myself.
I'm all for the push to professionalize the occupation; but from what I've experienced, I think we've got a long way to go.
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Only so evil.
Only so evil.
This message last edited by Burr on 28/01/2012 at 10:51:51 PM
Profession/professional
- 28/01/2012 06:22:40 AM
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I'm not sure I agree with that.
- 28/01/2012 10:59:31 AM
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Your last paragraph is pretty much the difference between what does/doesn't bother me. *NM*
- 28/01/2012 11:33:48 AM
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I don't see much point in trying to preserve the archaic use of the word
- 28/01/2012 01:54:53 PM
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Ha! That's silly.
- 28/01/2012 03:32:01 PM
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No it is silly to think you can make a living language stagnant
- 28/01/2012 05:38:27 PM
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That's hyperbole if I ever heard it.
- 28/01/2012 08:29:20 PM
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If you were to ask 100 Americans what their profession was they would tell you what their job was
- 29/01/2012 02:52:22 AM
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Ask 100 Americans "When did you cease raping children?"
- 29/01/2012 03:05:57 AM
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speaking of hyperbole *NM*
- 29/01/2012 03:09:45 AM
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There was no hyperbole in my response. Seems like we found two words you can't define properly.
- 30/01/2012 02:11:43 PM
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how many people want to acknowledge they're not in a "professional job"?
- 30/01/2012 02:25:25 PM
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look I know those of you who have earned the narrow definition of the word want to preserve it
- 30/01/2012 03:19:30 PM
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No, most of us just want to preserve the plain English meanings of words.
- 30/01/2012 06:53:22 PM
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That penultimate use is the only acceptable one in a non-professional context
- 28/01/2012 07:18:06 PM
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You're absolutely correct. It's just society trying to make shit jobs sound better.
- 28/01/2012 03:25:48 PM
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Yeah, it's important to denote which occupations demand extraordinary, society-affecting judgement.
- 28/01/2012 05:19:30 PM
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at this point, though, I think teaching should be professionalized
- 28/01/2012 05:37:46 PM
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that will be hard for them to do
- 28/01/2012 05:44:53 PM
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That is a good point.
- 28/01/2012 08:16:38 PM
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Nurses have unions, and I would consider them professionals. *NM*
- 03/02/2012 08:52:41 PM
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You need a license, don't you? *NM*
- 28/01/2012 08:15:10 PM
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We have a certification process that any college grad with common sense could pass.
- 28/01/2012 10:36:29 PM
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in my mind teaching is indeed a profession. *NM*
- 28/01/2012 08:25:18 PM
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and there is the problem
- 29/01/2012 02:59:15 AM
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A teacher must have a collage degree and not only that but
- 29/01/2012 11:07:51 AM
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what in the world makes you think that professions have strict codes of conduct?
- 30/01/2012 02:26:55 PM
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Connotations change. Deal with it. *NM*
- 28/01/2012 10:29:20 PM
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I find it funny that some of our conservatives are pro-PC all of a sudden.
- 28/01/2012 11:14:06 PM
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