Not disagreement, just faulty logic and misuse of words.
Tom Send a noteboard - 30/01/2012 06:51:38 PM
Your logic was as follows:
If someone asks the question, "What is your profession?" to 100 people, all will answer by listing their job. Therefore, all 100 people equate the two words.
That was faulty logic. My use of the (well-known) "leading question" of "When did you cease raping children?" was not a hyperbolic answer. It was an example of how leading questions do not lead to answers that assume the question was valid.
Hyperbole is, as you noted, exaggeration used to create emphasis or effect. The leading question of "When did you cease raping children?" is not an exaggeration of a real situation. It is the use of a leading question that is frequently mentioned when pointing out faults in logic quite often, just like "The next sentence is true. The preceding sentence is false."
The hyperbole that I was complaining about was the way you were exaggerating the way that language evolves beyond any recognition. By the standards you were applying, we should just simply dispense with spelling and grammar, allow ebonics and pidgin dialects of all sorts. It was an exaggeration of the situation that you were passing off as reasonable.
I find it amusing that you are, essentially, defending political correctness and taking personally the attempts by people at this site to actually have words mean what they mean.
If someone asks the question, "What is your profession?" to 100 people, all will answer by listing their job. Therefore, all 100 people equate the two words.
That was faulty logic. My use of the (well-known) "leading question" of "When did you cease raping children?" was not a hyperbolic answer. It was an example of how leading questions do not lead to answers that assume the question was valid.
Hyperbole is, as you noted, exaggeration used to create emphasis or effect. The leading question of "When did you cease raping children?" is not an exaggeration of a real situation. It is the use of a leading question that is frequently mentioned when pointing out faults in logic quite often, just like "The next sentence is true. The preceding sentence is false."
The hyperbole that I was complaining about was the way you were exaggerating the way that language evolves beyond any recognition. By the standards you were applying, we should just simply dispense with spelling and grammar, allow ebonics and pidgin dialects of all sorts. It was an exaggeration of the situation that you were passing off as reasonable.
I find it amusing that you are, essentially, defending political correctness and taking personally the attempts by people at this site to actually have words mean what they mean.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Profession/professional
- 28/01/2012 06:22:40 AM
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I'm not sure I agree with that.
- 28/01/2012 10:59:31 AM
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Your last paragraph is pretty much the difference between what does/doesn't bother me. *NM*
- 28/01/2012 11:33:48 AM
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I don't see much point in trying to preserve the archaic use of the word
- 28/01/2012 01:54:53 PM
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Ha! That's silly.
- 28/01/2012 03:32:01 PM
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No it is silly to think you can make a living language stagnant
- 28/01/2012 05:38:27 PM
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That's hyperbole if I ever heard it.
- 28/01/2012 08:29:20 PM
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If you were to ask 100 Americans what their profession was they would tell you what their job was
- 29/01/2012 02:52:22 AM
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Ask 100 Americans "When did you cease raping children?"
- 29/01/2012 03:05:57 AM
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speaking of hyperbole *NM*
- 29/01/2012 03:09:45 AM
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There was no hyperbole in my response. Seems like we found two words you can't define properly.
- 30/01/2012 02:11:43 PM
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disagreement with you equals ignorance, how typical
- 30/01/2012 03:39:36 PM
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Not disagreement, just faulty logic and misuse of words.
- 30/01/2012 06:51:38 PM
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how many people want to acknowledge they're not in a "professional job"?
- 30/01/2012 02:25:25 PM
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look I know those of you who have earned the narrow definition of the word want to preserve it
- 30/01/2012 03:19:30 PM
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No, most of us just want to preserve the plain English meanings of words.
- 30/01/2012 06:53:22 PM
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That penultimate use is the only acceptable one in a non-professional context
- 28/01/2012 07:18:06 PM
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You're absolutely correct. It's just society trying to make shit jobs sound better.
- 28/01/2012 03:25:48 PM
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Yeah, it's important to denote which occupations demand extraordinary, society-affecting judgement.
- 28/01/2012 05:19:30 PM
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at this point, though, I think teaching should be professionalized
- 28/01/2012 05:37:46 PM
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that will be hard for them to do
- 28/01/2012 05:44:53 PM
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That is a good point.
- 28/01/2012 08:16:38 PM
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Nurses have unions, and I would consider them professionals. *NM*
- 03/02/2012 08:52:41 PM
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You need a license, don't you? *NM*
- 28/01/2012 08:15:10 PM
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We have a certification process that any college grad with common sense could pass.
- 28/01/2012 10:36:29 PM
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in my mind teaching is indeed a profession. *NM*
- 28/01/2012 08:25:18 PM
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and there is the problem
- 29/01/2012 02:59:15 AM
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A teacher must have a collage degree and not only that but
- 29/01/2012 11:07:51 AM
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what in the world makes you think that professions have strict codes of conduct?
- 30/01/2012 02:26:55 PM
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Connotations change. Deal with it. *NM*
- 28/01/2012 10:29:20 PM
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I find it funny that some of our conservatives are pro-PC all of a sudden.
- 28/01/2012 11:14:06 PM
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