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Yeah, I just meant perception beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 16/03/2012 02:39:30 AM

Yes, I do actually know several friends or acquaintances off the top of my head who pulled the proverbial lever for him in '08 and are now solidly opposed. The #1 cited reason has typically been "I can't believe I voted for that guy".


Do they have a specific issue, though? Like, maybe they voted for Obama in 2008 because they were super-pissed that we had invaded Iraq for what turned out to be no reason? But now other issues are piling up to counterbalance that?


Basically, I'm trying to think of reasons that would cause an independent or moderate to vote Democrat that have changed in the last 4 years to make them vote Republican.
I amuse myself.
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can *any* republican pose a challenge to obama in november? moondog - 14/03/2012 04:06:59 AM 1282 Views
Yes, absolutely..... Anonymous2000 - 14/03/2012 04:12:30 AM 745 Views
"anybody but obama" is not a winning strategy moondog - 14/03/2012 02:28:23 PM 720 Views
It can definitely work.....don't compare 2012 to 2004. Anonymous2000 - 14/03/2012 02:44:39 PM 592 Views
this is why it will be 2004 all over again if romney is nominated moondog - 16/03/2012 02:22:26 PM 621 Views
It sure as Hell is, as long as the candidate is moderate Tom - 14/03/2012 03:04:10 PM 826 Views
Did you vote for Obama in 2008? beetnemesis - 14/03/2012 03:47:55 PM 583 Views
Yes I did. If Romney is the candidate, I will vote Romney this year. *NM* Tom - 14/03/2012 08:39:41 PM 377 Views
Second me on that. *NM* everynametaken - 15/03/2012 09:25:39 PM 298 Views
Strongly qualifying your statement really weakens the "anyone". *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/03/2012 10:14:45 PM 387 Views
The statement "anyone but Obama" can be a rallying cry, but only for the right candidates. Tom - 16/03/2012 01:47:48 AM 741 Views
somehow i don't see romney having much credibility versus obama moondog - 16/03/2012 02:16:32 PM 617 Views
Spoken like a true Obama partisan Tom - 16/03/2012 04:18:21 PM 634 Views
actually, i did not vote for obama in 2008 and i won't this time either moondog - 17/03/2012 01:02:09 PM 673 Views
It's actually not about credibility. TaskmasterJack - 16/03/2012 09:57:41 PM 698 Views
Re: It's actually not about credibility. moondog - 17/03/2012 01:10:52 PM 1030 Views
I love that "Gas Costs More!" is the current rallying cry. TaskmasterJack - 14/03/2012 10:13:04 PM 622 Views
Sure, if Israel hits Iran and Obama looks weak. Tom - 14/03/2012 04:56:23 AM 748 Views
i think iran/israel is probably the biggest issue at the moment moondog - 14/03/2012 02:25:29 PM 745 Views
I would put serious money on an Israeli attack before the election. Tom - 14/03/2012 02:56:55 PM 745 Views
"if netanyahu is smart" is a hell of a qualifier moondog - 16/03/2012 02:28:55 PM 684 Views
FL and/or OH and VA. Joel - 14/03/2012 04:55:04 PM 838 Views
Yes, Romney. Joel - 14/03/2012 10:59:26 AM 735 Views
I know that I would consider voting for Romney LadyLorraine - 14/03/2012 01:05:47 PM 713 Views
If you will pardon an impertinent question: Why? Joel - 14/03/2012 03:26:01 PM 690 Views
Because Obama is a complete and utter failure..... Anonymous2000 - 14/03/2012 03:44:14 PM 638 Views
Again, I get Republicans voting Anybody but Obama, but not how anyone can be comfortable w/ Romney. Joel - 14/03/2012 04:06:14 PM 771 Views
Pre-convention only the incumbents favorability ratings matter much Isaac - 14/03/2012 01:19:04 PM 729 Views
obama is not popular, but at least he has the ability to organize a national campaign moondog - 14/03/2012 02:18:04 PM 677 Views
No, the democratic party does, so does the GOP Isaac - 14/03/2012 03:16:31 PM 741 Views
That's true- despite how divisive the primaries seem, the GOP will unite behind the winner beetnemesis - 14/03/2012 03:44:16 PM 759 Views
Re: That's true- despite how divisive the primaries seem, the GOP will unite behind the winner Isaac - 14/03/2012 03:59:25 PM 703 Views
Actually, my experience has been a lot of libs mean it when they say they will not for anyone. Joel - 14/03/2012 04:19:46 PM 569 Views
I don't want to grossly over-generalize but there are distinct trends to party demographics Isaac - 14/03/2012 06:04:09 PM 776 Views
Hah beetnemesis - 14/03/2012 07:08:41 PM 723 Views
By the way, did we ever find out wtf William Smith is? Joel - 14/03/2012 04:33:26 PM 747 Views
Just some dude, it matters about as much as Alvin Greene Isaac - 14/03/2012 05:59:19 PM 695 Views
The answer to the question is yes. *NM* Roland00 - 14/03/2012 02:24:51 PM 461 Views
I was thinking no, and here's my rationale: beetnemesis - 14/03/2012 03:41:21 PM 654 Views
Romney doesn't have to "steal" people away..... Anonymous2000 - 14/03/2012 03:48:00 PM 657 Views
Isn't that a pretty tenuous strategy? beetnemesis - 14/03/2012 04:49:42 PM 697 Views
Much as it pains me to agree with trzaska, he is absolutely right in this case. Joel - 14/03/2012 04:21:43 PM 877 Views
Anonymous2000 - 14/03/2012 04:37:26 PM 555 Views
I need a shower.... Joel - 14/03/2012 05:05:51 PM 791 Views
Interesting. So you guys are basically saying I'm right, but it might not matter beetnemesis - 14/03/2012 04:53:48 PM 731 Views
Yeah, pretty much, and I would even say that is the trend in all Dem vs. Rep elections. Joel - 14/03/2012 04:59:30 PM 756 Views
Yes and no Isaac - 14/03/2012 06:23:47 PM 855 Views
Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point... beetnemesis - 14/03/2012 07:02:10 PM 699 Views
Conservative cookies nomz. But I think you missed my main point... beetnemesis - 14/03/2012 07:09:24 PM 621 Views
And the cookies are not a lie... at last night's meeting, we had Thin Mints Isaac - 15/03/2012 09:51:30 PM 736 Views
Yeah, I just meant perception beetnemesis - 16/03/2012 02:39:30 AM 723 Views
Re: Yeah, I just meant perception Isaac - 16/03/2012 03:32:07 AM 656 Views
Maybe I am beetnemesis - 16/03/2012 11:57:04 PM 685 Views
I'm not sure "hole" is really the word for it... Legolas - 15/03/2012 10:46:58 PM 624 Views
One day Republicans and internet trolls alike will learn not to say weird shit to people like me. Dan - 15/03/2012 12:30:17 AM 807 Views
This is quite a good post and I can offer further evidence Urza - 15/03/2012 12:37:13 AM 652 Views
I like this post. TaskmasterJack - 15/03/2012 08:40:07 PM 677 Views
I don't mean to disrespect your seal, but it looks more like a cat. *NM* Nate - 15/03/2012 08:52:26 PM 260 Views
This made me laugh way more than it should have *NM* beetnemesis - 15/03/2012 09:07:08 PM 282 Views
me too *NM* LadyLorraine - 15/03/2012 11:58:52 PM 270 Views
You've obviously never heard of a kitten seal, Mr. I-Write-An-Animal-Blog. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 15/03/2012 09:38:47 PM 382 Views
Maybe it's a leopard seal. That someone put a cat-ear band on. *NM* Nate - 15/03/2012 10:07:46 PM 285 Views
Couple notes Isaac - 15/03/2012 09:29:23 PM 605 Views
Yeah... TaskmasterJack - 15/03/2012 09:49:14 PM 638 Views
I like that logo better Isaac - 15/03/2012 09:57:39 PM 589 Views
Depends on the state of the economy wadsy - 15/03/2012 08:52:32 PM 652 Views
Does it matter if they do? At this point, does it matter who is president? Probably not. callandor1000 - 16/03/2012 02:11:45 AM 788 Views
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