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The irony is merely that of the pot and the kettle Larry Send a noteboard - 10/04/2012 01:05:39 AM
I mean normally the right accuses the left of voter fraud and the left accuses the right of voter suppression, irony would be something like "Chicago officials accuse Justice Department of not looking into claims of the dead voting".

Mind clarifying the source of irony here?

I'd also like to add that Holder deserves this slap in the face after his remarks, voter fraud truly is often very hard to prosecute, since it can be difficult to show criminal intent as opposed to neglect or accident, but denying it happens is like denying jaywalking or illegal Friday night poker games occur because you never bother to prosecute them... though without the moral high ground of being able to say it's not a big deal or worth the resources to look into.


One just happens to be more noticeable than the other, depending upon one's perspective. I'd rather have a few thousand cases of the dead voting/voting twice than tens of thousands who have "malfunctions" at voter booths and being somehow restricted in their right to vote if there has to be some form of electoral irregularity. It's all a black eye and even worse when our governments in the past have lambasted other countries for their electoral irregularities. Beam in the eye and so forth.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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No voter fraud Mr. Holder? I beg to differ..... Anonymous2000 - 09/04/2012 07:13:46 PM 784 Views
The irony of a Republican-leaning person pointing this out... *NM* Larry - 09/04/2012 08:37:33 PM 194 Views
Why is it ironic? Isaac - 09/04/2012 09:54:10 PM 528 Views
The irony is merely that of the pot and the kettle Larry - 10/04/2012 01:05:39 AM 420 Views
If you are referring to FL in 2000.....those machines were bought by Dems..... Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 01:17:26 AM 400 Views
Was thinking more about Ohio to be honest Larry - 10/04/2012 01:22:55 AM 410 Views
Intentional Voting Suppression is what they are trying to do in Florida right now(due to a 2011 law) Roland00 - 10/04/2012 04:22:25 AM 577 Views
Honestly, I'm fine with convicted felons permanently losing their right to vote..... Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 04:34:31 AM 386 Views
I am also fine with stupid people not being allowed to vote Roland00 - 10/04/2012 04:36:20 AM 361 Views
Agreed - stupid people should not be allowed to vote, maybe an IQ test? Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 05:17:43 AM 355 Views
Also the poor should not be allowed to vote Roland00 - 10/04/2012 10:13:27 PM 375 Views
Hey, to jump in here. callandor1000 - 18/04/2012 04:12:15 AM 357 Views
I don't know about permanently... LadyLorraine - 10/04/2012 02:10:10 PM 385 Views
Who is talking about letting felons vote in prison? Joel - 10/04/2012 02:24:29 PM 465 Views
The League of Women Voters, for one Isaac - 10/04/2012 08:50:39 PM 378 Views
Well, that is simply ridiculous then, and merits no consideration. Joel - 10/04/2012 11:53:04 PM 492 Views
To play Devil's Advocate, there's some legitimacy to the concept Isaac - 11/04/2012 04:24:37 AM 443 Views
Sounds like people deliberately missing the point more than anything. Joel - 11/04/2012 07:45:40 AM 474 Views
Ohio? When? *NM* Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 04:30:29 AM 150 Views
2008. Larry - 10/04/2012 04:37:15 AM 359 Views
Once again, Dems were running those polls and counties. Anonymous2000 - 10/04/2012 05:19:14 AM 335 Views
they were not in 2004 and still had vote supression and irregularities moondog - 10/04/2012 04:44:36 PM 367 Views
I think you've got your facts wrong Isaac - 10/04/2012 09:00:55 PM 373 Views
well, to be fair, it *has* been 8 years moondog - 11/04/2012 03:49:17 AM 446 Views
Fair Enough, my 'memory' is mostly google based on this anyway, from about a year ago and now Isaac - 11/04/2012 04:00:57 AM 437 Views
Stating something doesn't make it true Isaac - 10/04/2012 04:10:33 AM 409 Views
I'm impressed that you wrote so much in reply Larry - 10/04/2012 04:36:02 AM 380 Views
Then demonstrate that by having the courtesy to rebut it or withdraw your remarks Isaac - 10/04/2012 06:30:52 AM 437 Views
How long voting takes is a function of machines, not voters. Joel - 10/04/2012 02:08:39 PM 451 Views
It's a function of various factors, that can certainly be one Isaac - 10/04/2012 08:12:08 PM 405 Views
Ohio in 2004 was hinky enough to prompt the only Congressional challenge since 1876s Corrupt Bargain Joel - 10/04/2012 11:36:52 PM 545 Views
I know it's a bit pot/kettle but dude... stay on topic Isaac - 11/04/2012 01:34:26 AM 430 Views
I LOST PORKINS! Joel - 11/04/2012 07:26:41 AM 456 Views
The fact that it's possible doesn't mean it's widespread, nor that every countermeasure is justified *NM* Tim - 10/04/2012 11:57:16 AM 161 Views
As long as people need not purchase their voting requirements, voter IDs are fine by me. Joel - 10/04/2012 12:53:35 PM 463 Views
It's frightening when I agree with you. Tom - 10/04/2012 02:52:23 PM 383 Views
Law of averages, maybe. Joel - 10/04/2012 04:44:55 PM 520 Views
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