Re: The theory of dark energy always rang hollow to me.
Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/06/2012 04:14:32 PM
It always struck me as a kindred of the ether.
Well certainly us regularly calling it quintessence or ether probably reinforces that

Because we think we observe acceleration of the expansion of the universe, we invent a mysterious dark energy to drive it. It could be correct for all I know. I suppose much of theoretical physics is simply inventing or assuming the existence of one thing to explain some observation without having to junk currently accepted principles. But for some reason dark energy always bothered me.
I'm pretty sure it bothers everyone in the field, even the advocates, certainly I've never seen anyone cheerfully embrace it. It's not as unjustified as all that. We mock ether conceptually post Michelson, Morley, and Einstein but that's not really fair. Ether was a logical principal right until Michelson-Morley started paradoxically measuring the speed of light as the same in all frames, from this we realized there had to be a 'massless velocity' usually called the speed of light but simply the speed at which massless objects moved and since that couldn't change, in part because time is frozen for such objects, then space and time themselves must change for it. Dark Energy is a pretty similar concept, we can measure that distant objects are moving away from us, equally in all directions and faster the further out. We can also now see that they not only move faster, but are gaining speed, accelerating. Now, we don't know why, but based on all prior knowledge, if you want to make something speed up, you need to apply force, and doing that requires energy. We don't know what or where this energy is coming from so we label it 'Dark' because '????' or other four letter words are less preferable, nobody's pretending to know anything about it really, though many theories are advanced of course and one may be right or right in part. This one just goes the other way, and isn't entirely new, by saying 'No it's not accelerating, it just looks like it is because time is moving faster there', or someone has hit the fast forward button on a traffic camera, doesn't mean the car passing through is now speeding.
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New Theory proposes alternative to Dark Energy in favor of Time running out
19/06/2012 01:59:31 AM
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Does this have any implications regarding heat death? *NM*
19/06/2012 02:58:39 AM
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Oh, I see. It will just be timeless. *NM*
19/06/2012 02:59:28 AM
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It would more or less amount to the same thing anyway
19/06/2012 03:07:09 AM
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"A lukewarm homogeneous thin vacuum where nothing meaningful can occur."
30/06/2012 10:06:43 PM
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The theory of dark energy always rang hollow to me.
19/06/2012 02:47:29 PM
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Re: The theory of dark energy always rang hollow to me.
19/06/2012 04:14:32 PM
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I don't like the theory of dark energy, either, but how do you account for the bending of light?
19/06/2012 03:08:03 PM
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Unlesss you're talking about Sachs-Wolfe Effect I think you mean Dark Matter
19/06/2012 03:59:03 PM
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Yes. That is what I meant.
19/06/2012 08:14:53 PM
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Well, again, Dark Matter & Dark Energy aren't all that related, there's Dark Fluid, Dark Flow, etc
19/06/2012 09:24:44 PM
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NSSP_ I would just like to say this has been the BEST POST of rafo history. short as it may be. *NM*
07/07/2012 12:08:03 AM
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Wow, thanks, and I would just like to say it's great to hear a post of mine refered to as 'short'
*NM*
07/07/2012 12:26:45 AM
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