I'd warn you guys off rendering judgment to freely here
Isaac Send a noteboard - 24/07/2012 12:40:14 PM
The man's a victim and scarred for life, and I've seen a lot of people run through this self-loathing after-action account, some of whom were very brave people who were also very well trained and in past or prior occasions, some even more dangerous or confused, acquitted themselves with honor.
I also think it's contemptible for the media to even be interviewing these people. Beyond police reports these people should be talking about these experience with counselors, not reporters, and if they choose to make an account for the public, it should be down the road when distance gives a clearer view.
More, eye-witness accounts are garbage, even those from people discussing their own thinking and trying to be honest. Your memory of a traumatic event like that is not accurate and often includes contradictions and impossibilities. It's not that time slows down and your thinking speeds up, it's that you replay bits and pieces and make so many mental annotations that you've got a whole chapter written about your thoughts and actions that took 15 seconds and consisted of virtually no coherent thought.
Man may be a coward, lots of people are, but I think it is unwise to jump to conclusions on that score. People are programmed to try to survive, and the line between unconsciously flinching and panicking and showing your attacker a fast set of heels isn't that wide.
I don't think anyone would nominate the guy for a medal, and the other fellow surely deserves accolade, but to say he's an awful person and that another person who knows him far better than you is a fool to want to marry him seems very unfair and kneejerk. It's frankly none of your business and the media shouldn't be broadcasting interviews of the victims like this, it's disgusting. Both of them are clearly way to shook up to be making decisions right now or relating traumatic events to anyone other than the authorities, who need to know, and mental health professional or close friends and family.
I also think it's contemptible for the media to even be interviewing these people. Beyond police reports these people should be talking about these experience with counselors, not reporters, and if they choose to make an account for the public, it should be down the road when distance gives a clearer view.
More, eye-witness accounts are garbage, even those from people discussing their own thinking and trying to be honest. Your memory of a traumatic event like that is not accurate and often includes contradictions and impossibilities. It's not that time slows down and your thinking speeds up, it's that you replay bits and pieces and make so many mental annotations that you've got a whole chapter written about your thoughts and actions that took 15 seconds and consisted of virtually no coherent thought.
Man may be a coward, lots of people are, but I think it is unwise to jump to conclusions on that score. People are programmed to try to survive, and the line between unconsciously flinching and panicking and showing your attacker a fast set of heels isn't that wide.
I don't think anyone would nominate the guy for a medal, and the other fellow surely deserves accolade, but to say he's an awful person and that another person who knows him far better than you is a fool to want to marry him seems very unfair and kneejerk. It's frankly none of your business and the media shouldn't be broadcasting interviews of the victims like this, it's disgusting. Both of them are clearly way to shook up to be making decisions right now or relating traumatic events to anyone other than the authorities, who need to know, and mental health professional or close friends and family.
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If you were in the Aurora theater with your infant, would you leave them him and run to safety?
24/07/2012 03:46:16 AM
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If I were in the theatre I would rather die than expose my child to harm.
24/07/2012 04:41:34 AM
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I pray I wouldn't be such a coward in those circumstances.
24/07/2012 09:21:30 AM
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I'd warn you guys off rendering judgment to freely here
24/07/2012 12:40:14 PM
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Yes, people are programmed to survive but they are also programmed to protect their young.
25/07/2012 07:51:59 AM
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Programmed or conditioned behavior is not really worthy of praise or scorn, only conscious choice is
25/07/2012 02:55:29 PM
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Where did you see that he shoved the kid to the floor?
25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM
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I was using shoving as in "putting somewhere" no actually pushing down.
25/07/2012 07:38:12 PM
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I have been shot at and it is pretty damn scary
24/07/2012 04:05:37 PM
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Yes, that was my thought as well: who takes a baby to a movie?
24/07/2012 04:36:29 PM
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I am glad to see you guys are surprised by this
24/07/2012 04:47:11 PM
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Yeah, it's rude.
24/07/2012 06:41:43 PM
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Mine is six and I wouldn't take her to go see any movie at a midnight show
24/07/2012 05:26:18 PM
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way to blame the victim. that doesn't help. no one goes to a theater worrying they might get shot *NM*
24/07/2012 05:48:13 PM
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I'm not blaming them for getting shot, just being so rude and thoughtless to begin with.
24/07/2012 06:30:32 PM
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It's summer time, I don't think midnight without school to worry about is a big deal
24/07/2012 06:00:02 PM
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It is the midnight show which with trailers it starts around 12:15 runs for 164 min
24/07/2012 09:42:07 PM
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I don't get it.
24/07/2012 04:46:54 PM
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Same here, I was going to post about that before seeing you already had
24/07/2012 07:41:27 PM
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No and I certainly wouldn't do interviews or show my face in public after word got out. *NM*
24/07/2012 09:43:29 PM
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