Programmed or conditioned behavior is not really worthy of praise or scorn, only conscious choice is
Isaac Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 02:55:29 PM
even to the detriment of their own health and survival. The guy shoved the three month old onto the floor while his wife took the the 6 year old and THEN he ran out of the theater and got into his car and started driving off. Sorry, I am not trying to be self-righteous, but that whole scenario just makes him look really bad. Add onto it that they then decided to go on TV and talk about it and now the whole proposal thing and the fact that he had kids there and he just looks like a douche bag. Oh and really nice taking a three month old into a loud theater - bad for the baby's hearing alone let alone all the other things just mentioned.
Well, you do come off self-righteous and I'm not going to sugar-coat things by saying I don't think you mean to. Obviously you're not trying to, that doesn't change that you are coming off that way and I don't think it's because we're misinterpreting your thoughts or remarks. Now, you can chalk this up to instinct, conditioning, and background, in which case there's not much to say, we do not blame people for flinching or ducking or running on instinct. Alternatively you can say he had room for conscious thought and moral decision making and weighing his options, but the evidence is against that viewpoint, and regardless we don't know what he was thinking, because he does not know what he was thinking. He merely has a jumbled distorted memory of events annotated in guilt, rationalization, and all the other all-too-human hindsight and after-action thinking processes. There's no witness come forward saying they saw him make some deliberate decision, not that I'd believe one anyway if they did. I don't see you have the moral right to judge him, but even if I ceded you that I don't think you have the data to do it nor a lack of bias to do it right. Sorry, but that's my opinion on the matter. The man panicked and either made no conscious choice or a poor one in very understandable circumstances. That doesn't merit a charge of cowardice in my book, he didn't cover himself in glory but such circumstances, few do and he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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If you were in the Aurora theater with your infant, would you leave them him and run to safety?
24/07/2012 03:46:16 AM
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If I were in the theatre I would rather die than expose my child to harm.
24/07/2012 04:41:34 AM
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I pray I wouldn't be such a coward in those circumstances.
24/07/2012 09:21:30 AM
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I'd warn you guys off rendering judgment to freely here
24/07/2012 12:40:14 PM
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Yes, people are programmed to survive but they are also programmed to protect their young.
25/07/2012 07:51:59 AM
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Programmed or conditioned behavior is not really worthy of praise or scorn, only conscious choice is
25/07/2012 02:55:29 PM
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Where did you see that he shoved the kid to the floor?
25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM
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I was using shoving as in "putting somewhere" no actually pushing down.
25/07/2012 07:38:12 PM
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I have been shot at and it is pretty damn scary
24/07/2012 04:05:37 PM
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Yes, that was my thought as well: who takes a baby to a movie?
24/07/2012 04:36:29 PM
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I am glad to see you guys are surprised by this
24/07/2012 04:47:11 PM
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Yeah, it's rude.
24/07/2012 06:41:43 PM
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Mine is six and I wouldn't take her to go see any movie at a midnight show
24/07/2012 05:26:18 PM
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way to blame the victim. that doesn't help. no one goes to a theater worrying they might get shot *NM*
24/07/2012 05:48:13 PM
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I'm not blaming them for getting shot, just being so rude and thoughtless to begin with.
24/07/2012 06:30:32 PM
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It's summer time, I don't think midnight without school to worry about is a big deal
24/07/2012 06:00:02 PM
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It is the midnight show which with trailers it starts around 12:15 runs for 164 min
24/07/2012 09:42:07 PM
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I don't get it.
24/07/2012 04:46:54 PM
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Same here, I was going to post about that before seeing you already had
24/07/2012 07:41:27 PM
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No and I certainly wouldn't do interviews or show my face in public after word got out. *NM*
24/07/2012 09:43:29 PM
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