Most are willing to enter the debate, and give a measure of ground. Hence Romneycare. *NM*
		Dan Send a noteboard - 02/09/2012 10:40:21 PM
		
	So what if the argument is that Obama and his ilk want to extend the benefits and the security that said public sector douchebags get to everyone? Would it be possible, financially? Would the help businesses, or embolden entrepreneurs? There have been some recent studies that IQ and general intellect jumps when you don't have to worry about the lower ends of the good old hierarchy of needs.
It nominally supports those goals, but insists the private sector more than adequately ensures them to those willing to work, without letting those unwilling exploit the system, therefore government has little or no role, because it only enables the latter groups indolence.
The debate is legitimate, but how common is the position you describe even among the New England contingent of a national GOP to which it is anathema?
	
	
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			Does Not a "WE [Not I] BUILT THIS!" Banner Concede Warren and Obama Were Right?
	    
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			It amazing how much the left doesn't get tis issue
	    
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			It is amazing how well every sentence but your last covers the "We [not I] built this" view
	    
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			+1 - nicely said.  The "built it" comment drives the left crazy, since they know.....
	    
	         - 01/09/2012 04:25:52 PM
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			Nope, it drives us crazy because it's an out-of-context fragment quote
	    
	         - 01/09/2012 07:01:24 PM
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			they all know what he said and context doesn't change it *NM*
	    
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			This is the kind of shit that makes me and my family not want to vote Republican.
	    
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			Interesting response....
	    
	         - 02/09/2012 12:07:01 AM
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			They're both acting normal (for politicians)
	    
	         - 02/09/2012 12:12:31 AM
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			I disagree; they both did something downright bizarre (again, for politicians; see link.)
	    
	         - 02/09/2012 12:20:32 AM
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			Heh.
	    
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			Bah, everyone knows Taxachusetts residents are mad, and tyrants to boot.  - 02/09/2012 03:04:57 AM
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			Yes the GOP really need to make more effort into trying to win Massachusetts
	    
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			Exactly, the context doesn't help.  Libs believe government knows all and makes all possible.
	    
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			Sigh... what words a quote contains is not a matter of "POV."  - 01/09/2012 09:01:17 PM
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			Seriously. Like, I'm not debating policy here- I am saying that those are the literal words. *NM*
	    
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			I do not understand how that can be debated, yet it keeps happening.
	    
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			What should disturb you is what a bunch of unhinged hypocrites your party has become
	    
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			I have no party, and have already said mischaracterizing "corporations are people" is just as bad.
	    
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			Would you give a me link to where you created post upset about how Romney was being treated?
	    
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			Sure; the last time was about three days ago in response to you.
	    
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			are you on crack? that is a post of you defending the stupid Bain attacks on Romney
	    
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			You brought up Bain there; I merely responded and noted Romneys "corp." line was also misused.
	    
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			Joel. That's the thinking of a 12-year-old. You're better than that. *NM*
	    
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			Saying "you didn't build that" denigrates individuals is twelve-year-old thinking:I merely note that
	    
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			I know what Obama meant to say.  If he said it to me I would want to punch him in his liberal mouth.
	    
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			Ok, I'll put this very naively.
	    
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			Obama had his chance.
	    
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			True, I think. I just wish the RNC had taken a more concrete approach like you did. Could fuck them. *NM*
	    
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			"The Democratic health care bill that bears Obama's name for no good reason"
	    
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			and you really want us to believe it is a few comments that are keeping you from voting republican? *NM*
	    
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			Your suggestion that what I floated to Tom is somehow antithetical to the GOP is laughable. *NM*
	    
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			In fairness to rt, that sounds a lot like a welfare state, which is pretty antithetical to the GOP.
	    
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			Most are willing to enter the debate, and give a measure of ground. Hence Romneycare. *NM*
		
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			Fair enough, but once the show goes national we get Romneys pledge to repeal Romneycare.
	    
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			"If you don't want to root for your team, then you should get the hell out of the stadium."
	    
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			Your political philosophy seems based on ignoring the difference between voluntary & compulsory
	    
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			Yours seems based on ignoring the "WE THE PEOPLE" at the top of the document creating US government.
	    
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			I think there is something to be said for charitable interpretation.
	    
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			I am not sure what the best argument against the best reading of his argument would be.
	    
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			I don't think so
	    
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			True, but self-reliant individualism goes poorly with plural nouns.*
	    
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