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Sweden's driving age is 18? beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 28/09/2009 09:27:16 PM
If, according to you, even an 18 year old can't make good decisions by himself, why would the legal age of being tried as an adult be over 15?

Perhaps you should investigate that statement again.


Let me rephrase: Elsewhere in your post, you talk about how people can't really be trusted to make good decisions until they're 20. However, you also say that the age for determining what kind of punishment you should get is 15.




Meh. Public Health Care works perfectly when it comes to privacy. It works so well that when I go to another hospital, they can't pull my files from my regular one.


Eh- I don't really have anything against public health care, I'm just pointing out that adding a national bureaucracy, while having some benefits, does not make your information more private.


"A child cannot understand the concept of sex and an animal cannot give consent." Well, of course an animal can't give consent- it's an ANIMAL! That's like saying owning a cow is slavery, and eating it is murder. I don't have a problem with banning bestiality, but doing it on consent/cruelty grounds seems pretty silly.

Umm. Is there any other grounds to do it on?


Well, that's the difficulty. I was pointing out that you can't ban bestiality on consent grounds, because an animal isn't able to give consent in ANYTHING it does.

Cruelty grounds, you might be able to make stick, but then what about when it's obvious the animal is into it? Otherwise I'd have to lay low every time a dog humped my leg.

It's better to find some other justification, because those two don't really make much sense.

A driving age of 20 just seems ridiculous to me- when I was 17, I easily juggled school, work, and a personal life. I'm not particularly special, either- many do that at a younger age. None of that would have been possible without a car. In a city, perhaps it would, but suburbs don't have the same convenient transportation options cities do.

well driving age at the moment is 18... Also, you tend to apply a certain amount of americanisms on everything in this thread, which essentially is about as sensible as saying we can't live on earth since there is no air on mars...


Er, not exactly. I'm not saying everything should be like the US, nor am I saying the US has no problems. I was just using my personal experiences of suburbs.

I've lived in cities, and had virtually no use for my car. But I grew up in suburbs, and if I had no access to a car, I wouldn't have been able to do ANYTHING. My parents both worked, and very little was within easy walking distance.



Do you begin learning how to drive at 18, or is that when you have a full, adult license?
Where I grew up, you began learning at 16. After completing a course, you were allowed to drive to and from school and work. Once you'd turned 17 AND completed the course, you had a full license.
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This message last edited by beetnemesis on 28/09/2009 at 09:29:11 PM
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