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I guess his is perhaps a true "politically incorrect" comment (much as I hate that phrase)? Larry Send a noteboard - 19/09/2012 12:05:48 AM
There are entire segments of the population who are in a dependency cycle who will not even consider voting for Romney because they look to Obama to just, well, give them more. 47% or not, Romney's point is that it's a waste of his time to try to pander to the people who just ask the government to help and nothing more, and under Obama those numbers have swelled.

Obama's policies don't really inspire much confidence, either. He says he wants to reduce unemployment, then implements laws that discourage employment because he has a lot of other goals for special interest groups in his party.

I'll agree that Romney's comment was stupid. I think Romney did a significant amount of damage to his chances of winning, too. However, I don't think that his basic point is wrong.


I'm not denying there are people who do abuse the systems in place (one of my cousins does so; she's not a favorite of mine in part because of such an attitude toward people/government), but there's just no really good alternative at the moment that I can see. Maybe tweaks, but radical overhauls will, for a time at least, displace millions who otherwise might have made ends meet.

My initial response was to the lumping together of quite a few disparate groups into that statistic and throwing in that pablum about "responsibility." Considering how galling it is for those like myself to have to depend upon UI for a while to pay some bills, it does grate to have that tacked onto a message that, while I disagree with it out of general principle, is at least a valid point of view.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

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So I guess I'm part of the "47%"? - 18/09/2012 04:40:11 AM 987 Views
Lots of lazy people out there - everyone should work, whether or not it is the..... - 18/09/2012 04:55:29 AM 538 Views
Oh, I love to work when it's available... - 18/09/2012 05:01:21 AM 506 Views
You can't find work as a teacher? *NM* - 18/09/2012 05:07:04 AM 256 Views
I have history, government, ESL, and English certs - 18/09/2012 05:17:25 AM 450 Views
you're a teacher?? FREELOADER!!! - 18/09/2012 03:12:38 PM 459 Views
Unemployment is either the fault of people too lazy to work, or Obamas fault. - 18/09/2012 05:28:26 AM 469 Views
That's... actually a cogent point. *NM* - 18/09/2012 09:11:07 AM 222 Views
Happy to oblige. - 18/09/2012 09:28:48 AM 485 Views
Re: Happy to oblige. - 18/09/2012 03:08:09 PM 428 Views
You would be surprised how well that does NOT work. - 18/09/2012 03:13:23 PM 474 Views
Well, that's not exactly the point, and I think you know it. - 18/09/2012 05:24:48 PM 470 Views
In terms of employment, it really is, inescapably. - 18/09/2012 09:48:28 PM 599 Views
Nope. - 18/09/2012 10:29:50 PM 453 Views
That's not really the point though, is it? - 18/09/2012 09:41:52 AM 480 Views
Re: That's not really the point though, is it? - 18/09/2012 12:58:32 PM 467 Views
That makes sense. - 18/09/2012 01:12:03 PM 460 Views
You never did answer my questions in the previous thread - 18/09/2012 04:57:20 PM 460 Views
Just from my point of view.... - 18/09/2012 05:05:45 PM 423 Views
You are only saying that because he is not latino! - 18/09/2012 05:20:14 AM 577 Views
Pues... - 18/09/2012 05:25:24 AM 622 Views
You mean he really IS latino! Ohnoes, Obama is DOOOOMED! - 18/09/2012 05:40:21 AM 543 Views
God, how I despise this attitude of his - 18/09/2012 09:42:34 AM 529 Views
We need a safety net - 18/09/2012 05:08:43 PM 464 Views
You are forgetting that Obama only graduated due to the evils of Affirmative Action - 18/09/2012 05:16:24 PM 503 Views
Lets say I accept that premise of admittance was caused by Affirmative Action - 18/09/2012 05:33:13 PM 452 Views
Just to answer your questions.... - 18/09/2012 05:54:33 PM 487 Views
Harvard Law Review - 18/09/2012 06:53:47 PM 462 Views
Ok.... - 18/09/2012 09:49:15 PM 445 Views
Occam's razor? - 18/09/2012 10:23:42 PM 478 Views
What I'm saying... - 18/09/2012 11:12:34 PM 486 Views
I should note my comment was joking *NM* - 18/09/2012 10:40:42 PM 243 Views
And we are going to see plenty more of it, it seems - 18/09/2012 08:57:45 PM 621 Views
WE ARE THE 47 PERCENT! - 18/09/2012 03:07:09 PM 468 Views
It's valid to argue about the number (and everyone is), but Romney's basic point is valid. - 18/09/2012 10:59:48 PM 467 Views
I guess his is perhaps a true "politically incorrect" comment (much as I hate that phrase)? - 19/09/2012 12:05:48 AM 441 Views
I don't know that it really hurts him that bad. - 19/09/2012 12:55:36 AM 489 Views
I am the 85% - 19/09/2012 10:57:23 PM 615 Views

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