The danger with charity in place of tax is that it is directed at what people care about, not at what society needs so that unpopular causes (helping drug users and such like) is likely to be ignored in favour of pet charities.
I think the whole situation is further complicated by religious giving - Romney being a good example of it. Firstly, in the US, they are opaque organisations which means it is hard to assess what % of donations actually is spent on charity and what is spent "internally". Which leads in to secondly, what actually counts as charitable as Mormons might see $5 million spent on baptising the deceased of other religions as extremely charitable while for non-Mormons that might be a questionable use of the money. Thirdly, what value does allowing people to offset chartible donations against tax offer, in particular when it is giving to a church - if someone has to give a set % as a tithe, then are they going to refuse to if they can't offset it against tax.
I'm also not sure that letting people give to a church instead of paying tax counts as giving to Caesar what is his (or however that was phrased)
I think the whole situation is further complicated by religious giving - Romney being a good example of it. Firstly, in the US, they are opaque organisations which means it is hard to assess what % of donations actually is spent on charity and what is spent "internally". Which leads in to secondly, what actually counts as charitable as Mormons might see $5 million spent on baptising the deceased of other religions as extremely charitable while for non-Mormons that might be a questionable use of the money. Thirdly, what value does allowing people to offset chartible donations against tax offer, in particular when it is giving to a church - if someone has to give a set % as a tithe, then are they going to refuse to if they can't offset it against tax.
I'm also not sure that letting people give to a church instead of paying tax counts as giving to Caesar what is his (or however that was phrased)
*MySmiley*
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Robert Graves "There is no money in poetry, but then there is no poetry in money, either."
Henning Mankell "We must defend the open society, because if we start locking our doors, if we let fear decide, the person who committed the act of terror will win"
Taxes and Charity
- 23/09/2012 04:57:07 AM
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Proof that Burr is .....
- 23/09/2012 05:05:37 AM
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- 23/09/2012 05:05:37 AM
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Voting.
- 23/09/2012 06:43:12 AM
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Joel = Fool ; I vote every year, are you just saying random things now? *NM*
- 25/09/2012 01:42:49 AM
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"I am proud to say that I didn't vote for anyone in 2004."-Anonymous2000
- 25/09/2012 01:52:00 AM
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
- 25/09/2012 02:54:28 AM
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- 25/09/2012 02:54:28 AM
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"Anyone" means "anyone;" perhaps you have a writing comprehension problem.
- 25/09/2012 03:39:11 AM
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Joel = Moron
- 25/09/2012 04:37:15 AM
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The statement was ambiguous, hence I was not the only one who read it as I did.
- 25/09/2012 05:19:46 AM
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I imagine much of Romney's charitable giving is to the Mormon Church.
- 23/09/2012 12:08:45 PM
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Almost all of my charitable giving goes to Mercy Corps
- 23/09/2012 03:48:30 PM
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I would argue that "our society" includes the rest of the world as well. *NM*
- 26/09/2012 03:24:02 PM
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Is the Mormon Church not part of society? But that issue is part of why I favor taxation. *NM*
- 23/09/2012 10:14:39 PM
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I'm part of society too. Does that mean I'm as worthy a recipient of money as the public purse? *NM*
- 23/09/2012 10:37:31 PM
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If you can get the IRS to certify you as a 501(c)(3), then yes. If not, no. *NM*
- 23/09/2012 11:07:13 PM
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To whatever extent that we should support charity beyond taxation, yes, you are, IMO.
- 24/09/2012 03:56:31 AM
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I agree with you
- 24/09/2012 11:25:14 AM
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I DISagree with both of you.
- 25/09/2012 02:36:05 AM
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Re: I DISagree with both of you.
- 25/09/2012 02:26:16 PM
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The difference there is between non-profit and for-profit organizations.
- 26/09/2012 04:09:00 AM
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At the risk of sounding like a fundamentalist...
- 23/09/2012 11:05:14 PM
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Local symphonies are usually charities
- 23/09/2012 11:21:07 PM
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Yes - cultural and educational non-profits are usually tax-deductible.
- 24/09/2012 01:57:13 PM
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Re: Yes - cultural and educational non-profits are usually tax-deductible.
- 24/09/2012 02:58:17 PM
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will you count Scientology as a church?
- 26/09/2012 03:26:53 PM
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Unrelated business income is taxable under IRC 511. You know that.
- 27/09/2012 11:31:45 PM
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Let's look at this from a different point of view....
- 24/09/2012 11:51:43 PM
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I covered that point of view in my response.
- 25/09/2012 03:31:38 AM
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- 25/09/2012 03:31:38 AM
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I routinely do not read your posts (including this one)... Too long.
- 25/09/2012 04:12:24 PM
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Relating a typically long and tortuous experience with (private) bureaucracy was itself protracted.
- 26/09/2012 04:15:35 AM
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