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Relating a typically long and tortuous experience with (private) bureaucracy was itself protracted. Joel Send a noteboard - 26/09/2012 04:15:35 AM
But I know you well enough to guess that your entire viewpoint is based upon a personal experience which has colored your judgement.

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Does that surprise you?

Short form: Bureaucracy exists throughout the private sector, too, not just in government. We have the right, responsibility and dire need of far more public oversight and accountability. That would eliminate the worst excesses of government bureaucracy, but is virtually powerless over private bureaucracy. So while bureaucracy is ubiquitous and unavoidable throughout public AND private organizations, we have a remedy for the former and none for the latter. Consequently, the former is preferable since one or the other must exist.
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Proof that Burr is ..... - 23/09/2012 05:05:37 AM 745 Views
Voting. - 23/09/2012 06:43:12 AM 846 Views
Joel = Fool ; I vote every year, are you just saying random things now? *NM* - 25/09/2012 01:42:49 AM 307 Views
"I am proud to say that I didn't vote for anyone in 2004."-Anonymous2000 - 25/09/2012 01:52:00 AM 949 Views
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? - 25/09/2012 02:54:28 AM 738 Views
"Anyone" means "anyone;" perhaps you have a writing comprehension problem. - 25/09/2012 03:39:11 AM 755 Views
Joel = Moron - 25/09/2012 04:37:15 AM 762 Views
You could leave out the insults, you know? - 25/09/2012 08:35:12 AM 835 Views
It is an old debate, and one with many edits. - 23/09/2012 06:32:40 AM 963 Views
Re: Taxes and Charity - 23/09/2012 07:47:16 AM 847 Views
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Almost all of my charitable giving goes to Mercy Corps - 23/09/2012 03:48:30 PM 765 Views
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huh? - 23/09/2012 06:49:52 PM 911 Views
I would argue that "our society" includes the rest of the world as well. *NM* - 26/09/2012 03:24:02 PM 321 Views
Ok - 26/09/2012 07:36:35 PM 835 Views
Is the Mormon Church not part of society? But that issue is part of why I favor taxation. *NM* - 23/09/2012 10:14:39 PM 310 Views
I'm part of society too. Does that mean I'm as worthy a recipient of money as the public purse? *NM* - 23/09/2012 10:37:31 PM 359 Views
To whatever extent that we should support charity beyond taxation, yes, you are, IMO. - 24/09/2012 03:56:31 AM 735 Views
I agree with you - 24/09/2012 11:25:14 AM 2150 Views
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I am very well aware of that. *NM* - 24/09/2012 01:47:06 PM 310 Views
I DISagree with both of you. - 25/09/2012 02:36:05 AM 2108 Views
Re: I DISagree with both of you. - 25/09/2012 02:26:16 PM 1040 Views
At the risk of sounding like a fundamentalist... - 23/09/2012 11:05:14 PM 790 Views
Local symphonies are usually charities - 23/09/2012 11:21:07 PM 781 Views
Very well said. *NM* - 24/09/2012 06:12:23 PM 337 Views
will you count Scientology as a church? - 26/09/2012 03:26:53 PM 784 Views
Let's look at this from a different point of view.... - 24/09/2012 11:51:43 PM 725 Views
I covered that point of view in my response. - 25/09/2012 03:31:38 AM 886 Views
I routinely do not read your posts (including this one)... Too long. - 25/09/2012 04:12:24 PM 754 Views
Relating a typically long and tortuous experience with (private) bureaucracy was itself protracted. - 26/09/2012 04:15:35 AM 724 Views
You need both. - 26/09/2012 03:35:41 PM 827 Views

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