See, each side saw the spin in what the other side was saying.
Tom Send a noteboard - 12/10/2012 01:52:54 PM
Republicans saw Biden as a lying sack of shit (which he is), and Democrats saw Ryan as a weaselly liar.
Based on the polling, independents didn't really like either of them, felt that Biden "won" but were put off by his arrogant and rude demeanor. Even so, the numbers were split far closer to the national split in terms of who "won", which says that this debate was probably not going to change much.
I do have to admit Biden did better, at times, than I thought he would.
Based on the polling, independents didn't really like either of them, felt that Biden "won" but were put off by his arrogant and rude demeanor. Even so, the numbers were split far closer to the national split in terms of who "won", which says that this debate was probably not going to change much.
I do have to admit Biden did better, at times, than I thought he would.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
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Biden getting destroyed by media - laughing/giggling throughout debate
- 12/10/2012 04:08:38 AM
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And yet he won the CBS insta-poll *shrug* *NM*
- 12/10/2012 04:15:34 AM
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CNN Poll - Ryan 48% - Biden 44% - Another win for the good guys! *NM*
- 12/10/2012 01:18:15 PM
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Sorry, given their small sample size, that's a statistical tie, not a win.
- 12/10/2012 02:57:04 PM
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Re: Sorry, given their small sample size, that's a statistical tie, not a win.
- 13/10/2012 04:35:03 AM
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you do realize there are more than just the 2 candidates?
- 13/10/2012 08:26:58 PM
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I disagree
- 14/10/2012 02:20:44 AM
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Yes I do realize that. No, I do not want those candidates running this country.
- 15/10/2012 03:58:25 AM
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I wish there were a SuperPAC putting out "don't vote" advertisements.
- 15/10/2012 08:20:33 PM
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I apologize for the "idiot." That was a crude generalization.
- 15/10/2012 08:25:14 PM
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so because you don't want either Dem or GOP candidate for President
- 16/10/2012 06:13:34 PM
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Did you really just refer to Paul Ryan and by extension, Romney as "the good guys"? *NM*
- 13/10/2012 04:31:14 AM
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He admitted to being a partisan R, if that gives you a clue. *NM*
- 13/10/2012 05:40:27 AM
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Admitted to it and actually being one are two different things. *NM*
- 15/10/2012 04:11:20 AM
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did you just express shock that there are opinions that differ from yours?
- 13/10/2012 03:26:25 PM
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I expressed mock shock. Was I shocked? No. Did I wish to convey that I was? Yeah.
- 15/10/2012 04:10:02 AM
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Really? I just heard someone say, "Ryan came off like Doogie Howser."
- 12/10/2012 04:56:49 AM
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This is one of those ones that will take a few days to determine who won, if anyone
- 12/10/2012 06:55:28 AM
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come on, you know a2k can't handle reason, logic and an objective analysis.
- 12/10/2012 05:10:26 PM
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The conservative media maybe
- 12/10/2012 10:21:30 AM
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You mean, all liberal sources are calling it a tie? *NM*
- 12/10/2012 01:20:05 PM
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Biden wiped the floor with Ryan, and you know it. *NM*
- 12/10/2012 01:46:15 PM
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Not as per most pundits and the CNN poll - so sorry, your team lost AGAIN! 
*NM*
- 12/10/2012 02:55:03 PM
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- 12/10/2012 02:55:03 PM
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Oh, I guess pundits decide the election. *NM*
- 12/10/2012 03:18:31 PM
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well, the supreme court decided one, i'm sure the pundits feel left out.... *NM*
- 12/10/2012 05:11:08 PM
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Great new ad - Biden laughing at the important issues of the day
- 12/10/2012 01:23:24 PM
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Laughing at the blatant lies and mischaracterization. How else to respond to that? *NM*
- 12/10/2012 01:42:23 PM
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See, each side saw the spin in what the other side was saying.
- 12/10/2012 01:52:54 PM
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Good assessment; I was scared spitless Biden would break out the gaffe machine.
- 12/10/2012 03:48:36 PM
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They aren't proposing a net reduction in taxes/revenue, but rather a cut in the rate.
- 12/10/2012 04:25:59 PM
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Re: Good assessment; I was scared spitless Biden would break out the gaffe machine.
- 13/10/2012 08:48:16 PM
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I think Ryan helped Romney more than Bidden helped Obama
- 12/10/2012 05:59:32 PM
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if by "help romney" you mean "still hasn't specified what they would've done differently" then yes
- 12/10/2012 06:09:27 PM
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There is a sound political reason for vagueness.
- 12/10/2012 06:18:19 PM
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there's vague and then there's just plain making things up to score points
- 12/10/2012 07:36:08 PM
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if Obama had a better value to sell than "soak the rich" he could use the strategy *NM*
- 13/10/2012 03:37:12 PM
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They both accomplished what they had to do. Biden didn't need a longterm success.
- 12/10/2012 06:25:12 PM
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