Well, you get points for stubbornness, that's for sure.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 29/10/2012 03:26:50 PM
You can't control the MEd if you don't have access to it. You can't rebuild your destined empire without control of the Med that sits in the middle of it. I never claimed it was logical, or even practical; but when has that ever mattered to a zealot?
You mean the kind of zealot that blithely ignores whatever other people say and keeps thinking he knows best no matter what?
Seriously, your theories here have so many weird stuff and holes in them that every time I focus on one thing, I have to let a bunch of other slide; every time I accept something for the sake of the argument, I really shouldn't. Like this Iranian irredentism deal you're talking about, and your claim that that's a serious thing and it's seriously influencing their politics - I really should require some evidence backing that up before I even move on to how important the Med would be in such a scheme (short answer: not very).
My dad will chastise me some what, but it does not invalidate my point, the Hussein empire may not have taken lands from the Persians, but they are curretnly sitting on lands that were, and they are Arab, and they are the wrong sect of Muslim, 3 strikes and you're out. I am not floating conspiracy theories, but repeating their (Iranian mullahs) stated aims.
Really? You have some sources backing that up, about Iran wanting to conquer Jordan and the rest of the Arab Middle East? In a more threatening fashion than just "the Mahdi will come and all Muslims will bow down to him", that is.
They can not be exptecting the second comming of Jesus, as they do not acknowledge the FIRST coming of Jesus as the mesiah, only as just another prophet, and prophets do not return from the dead.
Dude. When somebody who's (evidently) better informed than you tells you something, you might at least want to, you know, look it up before saying it's not true. Relying on your own logic is all very fine, but it's not a valid substitute for the facts, I'm afraid (see Wikipedia link below, which mentions more substantive sources). You don't have to find it logical, but it is what it is. You may be pleased to know, however, that the Islamic view does not actually violate your logic of "prophets do not return from the dead"; you merely failed to take into account that in their view, Jesus never died at all but was taken to heaven alive.
Between the ships, horses, bayonets, and lines about loving teachers...
- 23/10/2012 04:44:32 AM
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He loves teachers, but only so long as we are seen and not heard.
- 23/10/2012 05:07:15 AM
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Which might those be?
- 23/10/2012 07:25:24 AM
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Romney did a good job, ultimately.
- 23/10/2012 05:13:00 AM
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I think it's safe to say foreign policy doesn't interest either of them all that much
- 23/10/2012 05:30:53 AM
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They really need to get together with the Greens.
- 23/10/2012 07:02:18 AM
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are you familiar with that scene in "life of brian"?
- 23/10/2012 05:25:54 PM
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I am indeed, but I do not see how proportional representation would help much.
- 23/10/2012 05:38:27 PM
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because PR coupled with IRV gives voters a lot more choice than D vs R
- 23/10/2012 09:47:27 PM
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PR mainly seems to give the same choices more OUTCOMES (and meshes poorly with IRV.)
- 24/10/2012 12:38:29 PM
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The instapolls declared Obama victor in #1 too, Romney won this one
- 23/10/2012 06:00:26 AM
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*blinks*
- 23/10/2012 06:08:00 AM
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With you on the first part, but most people conceded Obama had the edge on foreign policy.
- 23/10/2012 06:24:24 AM
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are you sure you weren't re-watching the first debate?
- 23/10/2012 06:08:36 PM
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No, defintely watching this one
- 24/10/2012 04:02:44 AM
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romney should be hanging in the wind with the way he campaigned
- 24/10/2012 06:28:40 AM
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So your rebuttal is to call for Romney's death? Nice *NM*
- 24/10/2012 06:57:19 AM
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yes, way to misconstrue what i said without actually responding to any of it
*NM*
- 24/10/2012 05:20:07 PM
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*NM*
- 24/10/2012 05:20:07 PM
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You said it, not me, but way to double down on it, very classy *NM*
- 25/10/2012 03:00:10 AM
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i see romney has taught you the ways of the douchebag asshole. you used to be better than that...
- 25/10/2012 05:42:38 AM
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In fairness to Isaac, the terminology used typically describes hanging a criminal
- 25/10/2012 06:55:43 AM
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i'm sure if it were not the end of the election cycle he would not have taken it that way
- 25/10/2012 05:52:25 PM
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I must agree with Isaac and Legolas; violent language like that is a (literal) trigger for nutjobs.
- 29/10/2012 07:00:53 PM
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I have agreed with the post mortems till now; no idea how anyone can score that a Romney win.
- 23/10/2012 06:01:22 AM
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My favorite gaffe of the night:
- 23/10/2012 06:07:19 AM
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Honestly, it was hard to miss: The Persian Gulf is named after Iran.
- 23/10/2012 06:28:25 AM
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I was wondering what Iran would see as weaker
- 23/10/2012 12:59:38 PM
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Hopefully America is wondering the same thing, but that presumes most of us can find Iran on a map.
- 23/10/2012 04:01:19 PM
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..and the folks poking fun at him hope we only look at the cropped map they provide. *NM*
- 23/10/2012 07:18:11 PM
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It was a poorly worded statement, the "sea" being referred to is the Med, but essentially correct.
- 23/10/2012 07:16:37 PM
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What is this, the 19th century? Why is the Med so important?
- 23/10/2012 10:20:11 PM
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Commercial, Iran doesn't have a navy worth mentioning.
- 24/10/2012 03:41:46 PM
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Okay, commercial, that narrows it down. How, exactly?
- 24/10/2012 06:02:01 PM
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Right family (Hussein of Jordan), wrong generation by a few hundered years.
- 25/10/2012 06:16:51 PM
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Hm. Curious who you mean, then.
- 25/10/2012 11:52:06 PM
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You are too hung up on a "port"
- 26/10/2012 03:13:59 PM
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That's what Romney and you said, isn't it? Access to the Mediterranean.
- 26/10/2012 11:30:55 PM
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Re: That's what Romney and you said, isn't it? Access to the Mediterranean.
- 29/10/2012 02:23:33 PM
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Well, you get points for stubbornness, that's for sure.
- 29/10/2012 03:26:50 PM
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Commercial interests are the only relevant ones, but commerical shipping has the Suez.
- 25/10/2012 11:31:23 PM
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and one he seems to keep making - how many times do you give someone the benefit of the doubt?
- 23/10/2012 11:46:55 PM
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it is simply a standard descriptive line.
- 24/10/2012 03:54:49 PM
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What is?
- 25/10/2012 11:15:28 AM
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Not really my contradictions, Frankly I think most of the political enteties in the ME are nuts. *NM*
- 25/10/2012 06:23:51 PM
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I'm refering to the contradictions of your argument, not the region
- 25/10/2012 11:47:29 PM
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Irans route to the sea is "not being landlocked;" it must go through Iraq to reach Syria.
- 24/10/2012 05:45:41 PM
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It is not ships and military conquest through the Med, it is political and ideological/religious.
- 25/10/2012 09:57:18 PM
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Um, I am pretty sure that stuff travels by internet and radio, not by sea.
- 25/10/2012 11:27:17 PM
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It is sociological, political, and religous, it does not have to make logical sense. *NM*
- 29/10/2012 02:26:43 PM
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If Romney wants to be president, he should make sense, particularly when arguing a cause for war.
- 29/10/2012 06:46:06 PM
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Obama trounced him but he was always going to and by this point nobody cares anymore
- 23/10/2012 12:58:12 PM
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The election is a tossup. Could really go either way at this point. *NM*
- 23/10/2012 11:06:39 PM
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inexplicably a tossup. normally the proven liar (romney) would have no chance
- 23/10/2012 11:36:16 PM
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Pointing to one side of a political debate/campaign and yelling LIAR is the definition of hypocrisy. *NM*
- 25/10/2012 09:59:08 PM
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well then prove to us mitt romney is not a liar and i will retract my statements *NM*
- 25/10/2012 10:32:18 PM
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