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i think you've hit on a major point here moondog Send a noteboard - 11/11/2012 02:08:50 PM
without learning from your mistakes last time though. Just like low turnout kills the Democrats, backward social policies and a continual stream of absurd and damaging statements from the far right of the party who continue to force presidential candidates to say one thing to win the primaries and another to appeal to the electorate are killing the Republicans.


Turnout hurt the GOP bad this time, and don't I know it, I had multiple downticket candidates lost by a slim margin while Obama swept my county at +10, that hurts like hell because you know they were the better candidate in their own race but got swept by straight-ticket presidential-year-only voters. We won a big share of the regular Dems but lost anyway because the 'elections are only every 4 years right?' crowd can't be bothered to find out that one of the guys with a D next to his name is under investigation by the FBI. They just see a D, and I'm not sure re-branding our pushing our message harder would help.

Because in a lot of these cases the 'mistake' is having certian values or principals 49% support and 51% don't, and you're one of those 49%, I'm not willing to change my stance on abortion to gain votes, or guns or school vouchers. Things like that aren't on the table anymore then changing my religion would be if I moved somewhere where Buddhists or Muslims were the majority. Being against amnesty for illegals might not be a tactically good position but I'm not wiling to trade it off for votes.


the fact that nobody is asking you to *change* your position, but rather accept that there is a position between the two sides where common sense can prevail. the GOP has spent the last four years putting all their energy into removing obama from office instead of working on passing laws that actually benefit the people whose votes they need to win elections. i know you're a lot more open to reason and logic than some of your party's elected officials, but they are the public face of the party and it is their unwavering opposition to everything having to do with obama that makes people turn away from their message. i have no doubt that there are some policies which the GOP has taken that play to the 51% of the electorate, but this time around there was a lot of baggage to overcome in the guise of people like akin and mourdock.
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I think you were taking that statement rather literally - 11/11/2012 07:36:14 PM 713 Views
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