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Racial prejudice has nothing to do with envy over who is fucking who. It is not a valid comparison. *NM* everynametaken Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 06:40:57 PM
Think back to the time period when military integration was first instituted. There were some really serious, legitimate concerns that problems might occur: violence, a lack of cohesion, things of that nature. With women aboard ships, you deal with similar fears (rape is sexual violence, and the personal dynamics are the other big issue).

The main difference is that with racial segregation, there was a hope that the antagonism would begin to phase out after a while. But remember, at the time it was only a hope, not a guarantee.

I agree with Celia on this issue 100%. It might not work, but it's certainly worth investigating further. (By the way, are there other countries that have already implemented such a policy?)
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
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"Military may lift ban on women in submarines" (Reuters) Burr - 28/09/2009 08:26:30 PM 874 Views
gives new meaning to the old joke.... moondog - 28/09/2009 09:47:36 PM 574 Views
Ahahahahaha! *NM* Rebekah - 28/09/2009 10:02:01 PM 257 Views
my favorite joke from Navy basic training (mature readers only, poorly veiled sexual reference) imlad - 28/09/2009 10:06:51 PM 655 Views
As I understand it, there are very good reasons why they don't let women on submarines. Tim - 28/09/2009 09:50:39 PM 649 Views
frankly i get along better with women who are menstruating with me. LadyLorraine - 28/09/2009 11:26:05 PM 598 Views
Like I said, it's possible pills will solve the problem. *NM* Tim - 29/09/2009 09:20:42 AM 282 Views
I agree. The idea is not a good one for many obvious reasons. everynametaken - 29/09/2009 12:38:08 AM 592 Views
seems like a strange choice to me random thoughts - 28/09/2009 10:26:24 PM 622 Views
if you can't keep it zipped LadyLorraine - 28/09/2009 11:35:35 PM 610 Views
Correct and yet it happens all too frequently already. everynametaken - 29/09/2009 12:43:15 AM 587 Views
In my mind, that's a pretty pathetic arguement. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:02:31 AM 647 Views
WHOA! Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:14:27 AM 561 Views
Dude I know!! LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:20:27 AM 563 Views
Hehehe, we could "name the show". Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:26:11 AM 561 Views
XD Or even better!!! LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:40:50 AM 600 Views
ROFL! Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:47:07 AM 532 Views
Really the possibilities are endless. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:48:34 AM 573 Views
Indeed. Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 02:46:31 AM 548 Views
Your comparison to segregation is idiotic. I won't even give such a stupid claim a second thought. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 01:44:46 AM 254 Views
I love how you disregard my entire arguement based on that one factor LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:48:09 AM 628 Views
It is an irresponsible comparison. Even in your response to my comment you can't make it work. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:39:48 PM 248 Views
Actually I could see her point. She was thinking along a different line than you thought she was. *NM* Tashmere - 29/09/2009 02:57:17 AM 282 Views
It's not idiotic at all. Lupine - 29/09/2009 05:21:49 AM 579 Views
Sweden has women on subs, as do (at least) Norway, Germany, Australia and Canada *NM* Floffe - 29/09/2009 07:38:43 AM 277 Views
Just wondering.. AgentOrange - 29/09/2009 12:42:22 PM 594 Views
well since all of those countries use diesel/electric subs I would no they don't stay out as long random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:10:34 PM 573 Views
There's also the fact that none of those countries have nuclear weapons Floffe - 29/09/2009 03:14:48 PM 588 Views
As for Sweden, that sounds about right Floffe - 29/09/2009 03:12:29 PM 533 Views
Racial prejudice has nothing to do with envy over who is fucking who. It is not a valid comparison. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 274 Views
~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend... Tashmere - 29/09/2009 02:54:03 AM 675 Views
By that same token, should women also be banned from long business trips? *NM* Burr - 29/09/2009 03:23:22 AM 268 Views
only the ones who don't charge for their services? *NM* moondog - 29/09/2009 03:36:03 AM 294 Views
Haha!! Touche! I concede that point. *NM* Tashmere - 29/09/2009 11:59:33 PM 268 Views
Re: ~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend... Jedi Wolf Sister - 29/09/2009 03:23:31 AM 567 Views
It might be true in some situations, but it's a weak argument against this issue. Lupine - 29/09/2009 05:15:47 AM 597 Views
subs are really really cramped. Ever heard the phrase hot racking? random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:23:33 PM 700 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 29/09/2009 03:59:13 PM 323 Views
"The military is instrument of war not social engineering." Excelent point. *NM* Jedi Wolf Sister - 30/09/2009 12:34:28 AM 347 Views
oh please will people stop the “it worked with segregation argument” random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:01:48 PM 569 Views
keep in zipped is such a bad argument random thoughts - 29/09/2009 02:51:45 PM 635 Views
A submariner's perspective Beqi - 29/09/2009 08:30:45 AM 609 Views
That was not Beqi but Grimbear. I was signed in but it still credited the post to her. GRRR! *NM* Grimbear - 29/09/2009 08:32:21 AM 365 Views
Interesting. Lupine - 29/09/2009 09:55:11 AM 628 Views
a rack is just the name for a bed random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:30:05 PM 570 Views
Re: a rack is just the name for a bed Isaac - 29/09/2009 03:57:10 PM 615 Views
Re: a rack is just the name for a bed Grimbear - 29/09/2009 04:46:12 PM 772 Views
It is amazing what you can get used to random thoughts - 29/09/2009 06:03:05 PM 578 Views
Re: Interesting. Grimbear - 29/09/2009 04:42:54 PM 688 Views
See, that's a good reason. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:29:32 PM 580 Views
before you knock the return to high school argument random thoughts - 29/09/2009 10:39:47 PM 562 Views
which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 12:08:46 AM 594 Views
Re: which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities Grimbear - 30/09/2009 01:12:05 AM 558 Views
You have to cut with the grain. random thoughts - 30/09/2009 03:05:29 PM 498 Views
Re: before you knock the return to high school argument Grimbear - 30/09/2009 01:10:35 AM 614 Views
It is a strange mix random thoughts - 30/09/2009 02:56:21 PM 510 Views
Thank you for talking some sense. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:46:33 PM 358 Views
Thank you for taking the time to answer. Well done. *NM* Tashmere - 30/09/2009 12:07:49 AM 250 Views
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