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Racial prejudice has nothing to do with envy over who is fucking who. It is not a valid comparison. *NM* everynametaken Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 06:40:57 PM
Think back to the time period when military integration was first instituted. There were some really serious, legitimate concerns that problems might occur: violence, a lack of cohesion, things of that nature. With women aboard ships, you deal with similar fears (rape is sexual violence, and the personal dynamics are the other big issue).

The main difference is that with racial segregation, there was a hope that the antagonism would begin to phase out after a while. But remember, at the time it was only a hope, not a guarantee.

I agree with Celia on this issue 100%. It might not work, but it's certainly worth investigating further. (By the way, are there other countries that have already implemented such a policy?)
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
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"Military may lift ban on women in submarines" (Reuters) Burr - 28/09/2009 08:26:30 PM 894 Views
gives new meaning to the old joke.... moondog - 28/09/2009 09:47:36 PM 588 Views
Ahahahahaha! *NM* Rebekah - 28/09/2009 10:02:01 PM 265 Views
my favorite joke from Navy basic training (mature readers only, poorly veiled sexual reference) imlad - 28/09/2009 10:06:51 PM 674 Views
As I understand it, there are very good reasons why they don't let women on submarines. Tim - 28/09/2009 09:50:39 PM 666 Views
frankly i get along better with women who are menstruating with me. LadyLorraine - 28/09/2009 11:26:05 PM 614 Views
Like I said, it's possible pills will solve the problem. *NM* Tim - 29/09/2009 09:20:42 AM 288 Views
I agree. The idea is not a good one for many obvious reasons. everynametaken - 29/09/2009 12:38:08 AM 606 Views
seems like a strange choice to me random thoughts - 28/09/2009 10:26:24 PM 637 Views
if you can't keep it zipped LadyLorraine - 28/09/2009 11:35:35 PM 624 Views
Correct and yet it happens all too frequently already. everynametaken - 29/09/2009 12:43:15 AM 606 Views
In my mind, that's a pretty pathetic arguement. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:02:31 AM 665 Views
WHOA! Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:14:27 AM 580 Views
Dude I know!! LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:20:27 AM 577 Views
Hehehe, we could "name the show". Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:26:11 AM 574 Views
XD Or even better!!! LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:40:50 AM 617 Views
ROFL! Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 01:47:07 AM 546 Views
Really the possibilities are endless. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:48:34 AM 591 Views
Indeed. Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2009 02:46:31 AM 563 Views
Your comparison to segregation is idiotic. I won't even give such a stupid claim a second thought. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 01:44:46 AM 262 Views
I love how you disregard my entire arguement based on that one factor LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:48:09 AM 669 Views
It is an irresponsible comparison. Even in your response to my comment you can't make it work. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:39:48 PM 254 Views
Actually I could see her point. She was thinking along a different line than you thought she was. *NM* Tashmere - 29/09/2009 02:57:17 AM 290 Views
It's not idiotic at all. Lupine - 29/09/2009 05:21:49 AM 588 Views
Sweden has women on subs, as do (at least) Norway, Germany, Australia and Canada *NM* Floffe - 29/09/2009 07:38:43 AM 283 Views
Just wondering.. AgentOrange - 29/09/2009 12:42:22 PM 605 Views
well since all of those countries use diesel/electric subs I would no they don't stay out as long random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:10:34 PM 586 Views
There's also the fact that none of those countries have nuclear weapons Floffe - 29/09/2009 03:14:48 PM 602 Views
As for Sweden, that sounds about right Floffe - 29/09/2009 03:12:29 PM 548 Views
Racial prejudice has nothing to do with envy over who is fucking who. It is not a valid comparison. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 279 Views
~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend... Tashmere - 29/09/2009 02:54:03 AM 692 Views
By that same token, should women also be banned from long business trips? *NM* Burr - 29/09/2009 03:23:22 AM 274 Views
only the ones who don't charge for their services? *NM* moondog - 29/09/2009 03:36:03 AM 302 Views
Haha!! Touche! I concede that point. *NM* Tashmere - 29/09/2009 11:59:33 PM 275 Views
Re: ~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend... Jedi Wolf Sister - 29/09/2009 03:23:31 AM 582 Views
It might be true in some situations, but it's a weak argument against this issue. Lupine - 29/09/2009 05:15:47 AM 609 Views
subs are really really cramped. Ever heard the phrase hot racking? random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:23:33 PM 713 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 29/09/2009 03:59:13 PM 332 Views
"The military is instrument of war not social engineering." Excelent point. *NM* Jedi Wolf Sister - 30/09/2009 12:34:28 AM 354 Views
oh please will people stop the “it worked with segregation argument” random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:01:48 PM 584 Views
keep in zipped is such a bad argument random thoughts - 29/09/2009 02:51:45 PM 657 Views
A submariner's perspective Beqi - 29/09/2009 08:30:45 AM 628 Views
That was not Beqi but Grimbear. I was signed in but it still credited the post to her. GRRR! *NM* Grimbear - 29/09/2009 08:32:21 AM 370 Views
Interesting. Lupine - 29/09/2009 09:55:11 AM 642 Views
a rack is just the name for a bed random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:30:05 PM 585 Views
Re: a rack is just the name for a bed Isaac - 29/09/2009 03:57:10 PM 629 Views
Re: a rack is just the name for a bed Grimbear - 29/09/2009 04:46:12 PM 790 Views
It is amazing what you can get used to random thoughts - 29/09/2009 06:03:05 PM 600 Views
Re: Interesting. Grimbear - 29/09/2009 04:42:54 PM 701 Views
See, that's a good reason. LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 01:29:32 PM 592 Views
before you knock the return to high school argument random thoughts - 29/09/2009 10:39:47 PM 586 Views
which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 12:08:46 AM 609 Views
Re: which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities Grimbear - 30/09/2009 01:12:05 AM 569 Views
You have to cut with the grain. random thoughts - 30/09/2009 03:05:29 PM 515 Views
Re: before you knock the return to high school argument Grimbear - 30/09/2009 01:10:35 AM 627 Views
It is a strange mix random thoughts - 30/09/2009 02:56:21 PM 522 Views
Thank you for talking some sense. *NM* everynametaken - 29/09/2009 06:46:33 PM 363 Views
Thank you for taking the time to answer. Well done. *NM* Tashmere - 30/09/2009 12:07:49 AM 255 Views
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