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One need not be living to be famous. Joel Send a noteboard - 16/12/2012 10:08:12 PM
there are very few examples of these shooters who have stayed alive after their rampage, for the express purpose of telling their stories to the media. anders breivik is the only one in recent memory, because he had a clear agenda he thought he was fulfilling and he relished the media attention to his manifesto. everyone else have just been people who snapped and had a gun (or two or more) at hand to allow themselves to have such a deadly legacy.

By your logic the so-called 27 Club would not exist. Doing what they do as they do it ensures lasting infamy but (they believe/hope) spares them lasting consequences.
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20 children killed in latest US school shooting moondog - 15/12/2012 12:35:42 AM 1227 Views
i know 2 people with kids there, one of them has lost their 5 year old. this is too close to home Aisha - 15/12/2012 12:39:26 AM 867 Views
*NM* Orange - 16/12/2012 07:16:19 AM 378 Views
It is absolutely terrible. Tom - 15/12/2012 01:51:38 AM 863 Views
I think you're largely right. Ghavrel - 15/12/2012 03:48:59 AM 839 Views
I agree. Dannymac - 15/12/2012 04:46:45 AM 859 Views
Re: It is absolutely terrible. Avendesora - 15/12/2012 12:49:34 PM 807 Views
I do think you're right on this TheCrownless - 15/12/2012 02:24:43 PM 814 Views
whoop Hieshyn - 15/12/2012 04:35:01 AM 1061 Views
So horrible. MonCul - 15/12/2012 05:53:46 AM 754 Views
I lived 20 mins from there. I'm shocked. I'm even heading back there in 4 days.... Fox and Ravens - 15/12/2012 02:08:28 PM 825 Views
one of the big problems with "wait for a better day" moondog - 15/12/2012 03:45:53 PM 809 Views
Re: one of the big problems with "wait for a better day" Fox and Ravens - 15/12/2012 06:53:51 PM 965 Views
Maybe when we stop making media celebrities out of these murderers.. Amyrlin - 16/12/2012 05:36:19 PM 796 Views
Nope, won't happen. Tom - 16/12/2012 06:37:11 PM 880 Views
For each of those 30 years sociologists have warned of the growing danger of growing alienation. Joel - 16/12/2012 10:05:28 PM 844 Views
I don't know what you mean, though. Tom - 17/12/2012 05:53:44 PM 816 Views
I dunno, your response suggests you figured it out pretty quickly. Joel - 18/12/2012 05:08:12 PM 892 Views
Well, I more or less agree with everything you said *NM* Tom - 19/12/2012 01:23:26 AM 372 Views
Short form: The common phrases "suicide by cop" and "going postal" did not exist a generation ago. Joel - 18/12/2012 09:14:51 PM 831 Views
Reducing people to economics is a terrible thing. Tom - 19/12/2012 01:28:54 AM 792 Views
if they were after fame, they would probably all have tried to stay alive after killing everyone moondog - 16/12/2012 10:01:50 PM 786 Views
One need not be living to be famous. Joel - 16/12/2012 10:08:12 PM 818 Views
actually, i'm pretty sure you're wrong on this moondog - 17/12/2012 05:38:07 PM 785 Views
"Live fast, die young and leave a good-looking corpse," "it's better to burn out than fade away" etc Joel - 18/12/2012 03:25:23 PM 958 Views
what do your examples all have in common? moondog - 18/12/2012 08:42:59 PM 799 Views
I frequently confuse that detail of Hinckleys shooting with Chapmans, sorry. Joel - 18/12/2012 08:59:25 PM 889 Views
you are going to have to define "many" moondog - 18/12/2012 10:13:33 PM 825 Views
Well, it is a relative term, and not an all-encompassing one. Joel - 26/12/2012 07:04:25 PM 893 Views
Billy Joel song titles? Roonas - 19/12/2012 09:03:22 PM 818 Views
Chapman wasn't a mass murderer, though. Neither was Hinckley. Tom - 20/12/2012 05:15:23 AM 789 Views
True, but it does demonstrate how easily and frequently notoriety motivates shootings. Joel - 26/12/2012 07:22:37 PM 820 Views
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