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That is a decade old and horribly discredited citation Isaac Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 11:46:51 PM
we're top 3 when it comes to spending on health care, but yet our country as a whole is ranked #37 in overall health. but i guess it's more important that we *don't* take care of our own people as long as we can keep up the status quo :rolleyes:


Maybe you missed the part at the top where it said "The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task."

That's diplo speak for two things, "We got accused of extreme bias" and "The complexity of the task involves lots of people screaming at us"

The link below explains many of the alleged faults with how the WHO 2000 study was compiled, and is not a decade old, it's from last year.

I'd especially point out that of their five factors "Finacial fairness" is one, and makes up 25% of their weighted value.
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Senate Finance Committee Votes Against Government-Run Health Insurance Plan trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 09:08:40 PM 856 Views
I just hope this doesn't squash all health-care reform attempts LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:12:15 PM 572 Views
It definitely needs work, but not scrapped..... trzaska2000 - 29/09/2009 09:16:32 PM 577 Views
Opinion polls with health care have huge swings depending on how it's phrased Jragghen - 29/09/2009 09:28:28 PM 659 Views
Polls are horrid evidence in my mind LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 09:32:58 PM 576 Views
Re: Polls are horrid evidence in my mind Isaac - 29/09/2009 10:12:26 PM 747 Views
From a government employee: Nice post *NM* scalius - 29/09/2009 10:17:48 PM 245 Views
Not that I totally disagree with you, but that being said LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 10:29:13 PM 516 Views
Re: Not that I totally disagree with you, but that being said Isaac - 29/09/2009 11:21:21 PM 629 Views
Re: Not that I totally disagree with you, but that being said Jragghen - 29/09/2009 11:40:42 PM 646 Views
his statements on health care are precisely my point, but much more well stated. *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 11:54:29 PM 240 Views
the difference is the focus of the organizations moondog - 29/09/2009 11:44:56 PM 615 Views
Re: the difference is the focus of the organizations Isaac - 30/09/2009 12:40:38 AM 637 Views
Difference is that the law is subject to more checks and balances than the whims of a CEO LadyLorraine - 29/09/2009 11:44:58 PM 627 Views
Re: Difference is that the law is subject to more checks and balances than the whims of a CEO Isaac - 30/09/2009 12:28:36 AM 611 Views
that the private sector has a long history of abusing both customer and employee *NM* LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 03:46:03 AM 237 Views
That's indisbutable Isaac - 30/09/2009 05:55:45 PM 597 Views
And that's all I'm saying LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 07:08:04 PM 551 Views
Re: And that's all I'm saying Isaac - 01/10/2009 03:10:02 AM 596 Views
It doesn't work at all Brian - 30/09/2009 04:27:44 AM 630 Views
i have yet to see any evidence of malpractice insurance being a driving cost of health care moondog - 30/09/2009 05:27:34 AM 642 Views
When the malpractice insurance can cost well over $100k a year of course it effects the costs. Brian - 30/09/2009 06:21:29 AM 622 Views
it's not THAT they pay malpractice LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 02:00:04 PM 499 Views
but doctors are *required* to buy malpractice insurance moondog - 30/09/2009 04:13:08 PM 567 Views
that's completely moot to the situation malpractice insurance causes. LadyLorraine - 30/09/2009 04:21:42 PM 518 Views
hooray, we're going to continue in mediocrity when it comes to our health moondog - 29/09/2009 10:15:00 PM 628 Views
Yes, it's comforting to see that we are only rated 37th... Danu - 29/09/2009 11:14:33 PM 546 Views
That is a decade old and horribly discredited citation Isaac - 29/09/2009 11:46:51 PM 719 Views
regardless, we still spend a lot more on health care while having too many uncovered people moondog - 29/09/2009 11:56:24 PM 540 Views
My objection, in this context, is strictly about references Isaac - 30/09/2009 12:13:40 AM 549 Views
i understand your point about the reference moondog - 30/09/2009 12:54:25 AM 596 Views
Re: i understand your point about the reference Isaac - 30/09/2009 01:15:30 AM 656 Views
Re: i understand your point about the reference NaClH2O - 30/09/2009 12:24:45 PM 637 Views
Re: i understand your point about the reference Isaac - 30/09/2009 06:29:09 PM 648 Views
Re: i understand your point about the reference NaClH2O - 30/09/2009 10:57:36 PM 613 Views
Interesting... Isaac - 01/10/2009 12:09:35 AM 534 Views
So basically you are saying? NaClH2O - 01/10/2009 01:10:22 AM 500 Views
Basically... Isaac - 01/10/2009 02:52:51 AM 516 Views
Hooray! The government isn't going to get directly involved and make HC even worse! *NM* trzaska2000 - 30/09/2009 01:03:50 AM 237 Views
yes, heaven forbid we take care of our own *NM* moondog - 30/09/2009 04:13:50 PM 234 Views
looks l;ike they found some bipartisan spirit after all random thoughts - 29/09/2009 10:35:55 PM 553 Views
Definitely wouldn't want to "denigrate" Health Care... Dannymac - 30/09/2009 02:46:19 PM 518 Views
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