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Every study. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 07/07/2013 01:14:48 AM

View original postWho did the study and what their standards and scoring were are very important, for instance the HDI - while seriously improved by the 2010 revisions - is still essentially an intensely stupid way of comparing first world countries, for which it isn't and never was intended anyway. Most of these studies will pick arbitrary scoring methods and often apply what amounts to their own concept of utopia-lite as the gage.

The HDI you mentioned puts the USA in 3rd place, which is one of its better showings.

The one I had in mind when I posted was the Index of Freedom in the World from the Cato, Fraser, and Liberales Institutes, which puts the US in 7th place.

The Index of Economic Freedom, from the Heritage Foundation, puts the US in 10th place.

The World Press Freedom Index, from, Reporters Without Boarders, puts the US in 32nd place.

The Freedom Meta-Index at FreeExistence.Org is interesting because there is no possible metric in which the United States scores higher than New Zealand.

I have yet to see any study which concludes that the USA is the "most free" country in the world.

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I'm not all that surprised by that, either. nossy - 04/07/2013 10:47:41 PM 814 Views
I'm trying to think my way through this, and I keep running into holes. Nate - 04/07/2013 10:48:59 PM 889 Views
I really don't want to get into the sickness known as nationalism (patriotism) imlad - 05/07/2013 07:10:09 PM 1042 Views
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Interesting general thought train, let me hop on board Isaac - 07/07/2013 12:52:18 PM 964 Views
Mmm. Nate - 09/07/2013 05:44:04 PM 904 Views
Interplanetary just doesn't leave much interdependence Isaac - 09/07/2013 08:14:18 PM 892 Views
Them's some cool beans. Nate - 09/07/2013 09:11:50 PM 814 Views
Re: Them's some cool beans. Isaac - 09/07/2013 10:11:50 PM 783 Views
At the risk of putting this post even further into Books board territory... Legolas - 10/07/2013 06:33:02 PM 777 Views
I've decided to pretend we're still entirely on the original subject Isaac - 11/07/2013 01:13:15 AM 851 Views
Hold the phone, Mabel: Patriotism and nationalism are not synonymous. Joel - 11/08/2013 08:04:40 PM 784 Views
There were two questions on that poll. ranagrande - 05/07/2013 07:53:13 PM 1105 Views
That's because being born in America is the best thing they ever did imlad - 05/07/2013 07:04:54 PM 1012 Views
Congrats! You win the bitterness award. Anonymous2000 - 05/07/2013 09:49:00 PM 933 Views
Bitterness? How so? imlad - 08/07/2013 05:26:50 PM 1019 Views
Nice post. Your honor, I rest my case! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 08/07/2013 06:15:47 PM 409 Views
Er. Obviously? beetnemesis - 06/07/2013 02:24:44 PM 886 Views
Actually, liberals say, let's make the US a socialist state and control everything people do. Anonymous2000 - 06/07/2013 04:54:00 PM 928 Views
By what measure, I wonder... Dannymac - 06/07/2013 04:21:57 PM 869 Views
Being proud of America has zero to do with our government..... Anonymous2000 - 06/07/2013 04:57:30 PM 774 Views
I don't think this is accurate. ranagrande - 06/07/2013 10:58:43 PM 890 Views
Re: I don't think this is accurate. nossy - 06/07/2013 11:46:47 PM 865 Views
You'd have to list the study Isaac - 07/07/2013 12:10:13 AM 985 Views
Every study. ranagrande - 07/07/2013 01:14:48 AM 982 Views
Really, you have a list of every single study conducted on the matter? Isaac - 07/07/2013 02:51:05 AM 990 Views
I have a list of every study I listed! ranagrande - 07/07/2013 03:55:21 AM 1065 Views
Damn, you just got schooled! Good Job by Isaac. Anonymous2000 - 07/07/2013 04:27:45 AM 854 Views
Were you actively trying to prove the point of your opponents there? Legolas - 07/07/2013 09:10:06 AM 815 Views
I hope you'll understand that I don't find that compelling Isaac - 07/07/2013 05:07:52 AM 1028 Views
I noticed that too in the Cato study. Legolas - 07/07/2013 09:50:19 AM 874 Views
There is admittedly a big difference between BBC and Pravda but I think mistrust is often justified Isaac - 07/07/2013 11:39:03 AM 986 Views
I'm thinking the board is dead enough to quality for "rainy day" status, but okay. Legolas - 08/07/2013 06:49:57 PM 963 Views
Also it was raining at the time here, still is, NE Ohio has been a giant mud puddle all month Isaac - 08/07/2013 11:14:57 PM 846 Views
Catos study is a transparent joke, hence ranking a city in Red China second for capitalisms sake. Joel - 11/08/2013 08:44:04 PM 792 Views
Nice non-reply. Dannymac - 09/07/2013 05:23:25 PM 852 Views
You didn't say anything meriting an in-depth response Isaac - 09/07/2013 08:52:13 PM 794 Views
Actually.... Dannymac - 10/07/2013 03:00:42 AM 765 Views
One of your examples was bad and you want me to do the others too? Isaac - 10/07/2013 03:52:20 AM 829 Views
Pride comes before the fall. *NM* heartbreak - 12/07/2013 06:33:56 PM 460 Views
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