View original postShould he spend time discussing Kim Kardashian's child? There are things with which a President should concern himself. A homicide trial is not one of them. A tragedy happened. If he wants to deal with the omnipresent specter of race in America, there are better methods than comparing himself to Martin. Let the dead lie. As you can see in the posts in this thread, people are quick to attack the deceased; I doubt they would be so inclined if this case were not so politically charged.
I agree with much of what you said here, but people are too stuck on the "comparison", and I don't think Obama concerned himself with the trial - I think he concerned himself with the people who are seriously upset because they don't understand the outcome. People who are demonstrating and protesting - actions that seem serious enough that we'd expect the president to speak up. I disagree with you that this isn't the time to possibly start the race discourse, given that it is very much at the forefront. Obama basically said that we need to start looking at how we are going to handle the discussion, and I agree with that.
Of course, I have the luck not to have been in the states for all of the drama, so it may all hit me differently.
View original postIt's late and I am not writing well. Suffice it to say that I have grown very tired of the moral outrage displayed by people whose sole contribution to social justice is their annual donation to the food bank. I am probably unfairly taking this exasperation out on you.
Well, I don't feel attacked, but even if I did absolutely nothing to support social justice, arguing against the attitudes I see in this post should count for something. If anything, I hope I managed to make people think. Just to satisfy my curiosity though, what kind of things do you do?
This message last edited by nossy on 21/07/2013 at 05:31:38 PM
"Trayvon Martin could have been me." President Obama
19/07/2013 11:27:21 PM
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My interpretation is that he's being incredibly racist...against blacks
19/07/2013 11:52:37 PM
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From the litlle I heard on NPR I had a couple real problems with it
20/07/2013 12:53:40 AM
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Would he just shut up about it already? *pukes a little in mouth* *NM*
20/07/2013 04:20:07 AM
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Yeah. As someone who voted for Obama and would do so again, this is embarrassing.
20/07/2013 10:10:53 AM
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Does it matter now? Martin is still dead and Zimmerman will stay free. It's over.
20/07/2013 04:24:43 AM
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C'mon guys. It's sounding very "I'm not a racist, I swear!" in here.
20/07/2013 03:32:08 PM
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"I am not a racist I swear it" is what we are reduced for not agreeing on race
20/07/2013 04:44:52 PM
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No. As I'll say to Isaac in a minute, I'll apologize for lumping everyone in
20/07/2013 08:06:49 PM
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for me his about what will work not what is fair
22/07/2013 06:06:13 PM
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It has to be both. Period. Nobody will accept someone else trying to change them
22/07/2013 07:29:15 PM
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sorry I don't see where he says a change in behaviour is part of the solution
23/07/2013 06:29:16 PM
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A touch over the top don't you think?
20/07/2013 05:20:21 PM
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One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense
20/07/2013 09:09:45 PM
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I think he's wrong for continuing to talk about it, and doing so in this manner
21/07/2013 06:59:11 AM
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There are more important things for him to be focusing on, I think. That said, I think you're right. *NM*
21/07/2013 08:16:34 AM
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There will always be something "more important." *NM*
21/07/2013 10:25:46 AM
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That's specious reasoning.
21/07/2013 12:02:17 PM
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It is if you sidestep my point.
21/07/2013 05:15:19 PM
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I am of two minds on the issue. *edit*
21/07/2013 02:04:48 PM
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Well, that's good. I feel like I'm working on 3 or 4 at this point.
21/07/2013 05:41:21 PM
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People do forget that he's only half black - and more importantly, not "African American" at all.
21/07/2013 07:08:28 PM
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I'm one of those annoying people who corrects others with "biracial".
22/07/2013 08:03:10 PM
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That's not appropriate. Obama identifies as black. *NM*
23/07/2013 06:22:06 AM
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So do lots of white kids.
23/07/2013 08:50:12 AM
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It is the truth, though.
23/07/2013 06:30:53 PM
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I do not agree.
23/07/2013 07:06:33 PM
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Because he has publicly said that he has lived the life of a black man.
24/07/2013 06:12:27 AM
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I'm not saying he hasn't. In fact, I've said too many times in this thread that he has.
24/07/2013 08:21:04 AM
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Re: I'm not saying he hasn't. In fact, I've said too many times in this thread that he has.
24/07/2013 02:22:58 PM
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This is a complex issue.
23/07/2013 01:09:00 PM
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Because he looks black, he's been treated like a black person.
23/07/2013 06:28:41 PM
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Re: Because he looks black, he's been treated like a black person.
23/07/2013 11:31:03 PM
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Yes, Obama was raised by white people. Wikipedia says so, so it must be true! *NM*
24/07/2013 04:16:31 AM
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Perusing.
24/07/2013 04:02:53 AM
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That makes sense. Generally, though, one should go by whatever the person in question identifies as. *NM*
24/07/2013 06:13:28 AM
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I noticed the press wasn't aboard with idea when it came to Zimmerman
24/07/2013 12:49:00 PM
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Which is silly, because anyone can be racist. You are right, though. *NM*
24/07/2013 10:32:55 PM
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No, only white people can be racist. /sarcasm
25/07/2013 04:38:13 PM
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No, not really.
26/07/2013 07:40:45 AM
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I've thought about this a lot recently (prejudice + power = racism).
26/07/2013 10:36:16 AM
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so some liberal ivory tower racist redefined the word to mean they were no racist
26/07/2013 01:16:48 PM
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As always, the voice of reason when I am about to discount the US as fucking mental. *NM*
21/07/2013 03:17:15 PM
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That's not very nice.
21/07/2013 09:03:55 PM
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So Obama smoked weed, punched school bus drivers, and got arrested for theft?
21/07/2013 05:10:26 AM
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