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He sounds like a nut. *NM* Stephen Send a noteboard - 28/07/2013 08:29:29 PM

View original postI think he may be slightly over the top but I do think there is a lot of truth to what he is saying. There are two sides to the poverty equation and their is way to much snobbery in food these days most of which is based on junk science and stupid crap people read on the internet. I know a mom who refuses to take her kids to McDonalds but she takes them to Chick-fil-A once a weak and she honestly believes it is about their health and not her snobbery. She can't really believe the waffle fries or a better choice than the apples that come in a happy meal?


View original postIn terms of cost-per-calorie, no locavore, organic veggie can compete with the McDouble


View original postBy KYLE SMITH


View original postLast Updated: 9:41 AM, July 28, 2013


View original postPosted: 10:35 PM, July 27, 2013


View original postWhat is “the cheapest, most nutritious and bountiful food that has ever existed in human history” Hint: It has 390 calories. It contains 23g, or half a daily serving, of protein, plus 7% of daily fiber, 20% of daily calcium and so on.


View original postAlso, you can get it in 14,000 locations in the US and it usually costs $1. Presenting one of the unsung wonders of modern life, the McDonald’s McDouble cheeseburger.


View original postThe argument above was made by a commenter on the Freakonomics blog run by economics writer Stephen Dubner and professor Steven Leavitt, who co-wrote the million-selling books on the hidden side of everything.


View original postDubner mischievously built an episode of his highly amusing weekly podcast around the debate. Many huffy back-to-the-earth types wrote in to suggest the alternative meal of boiled lentils. Great idea. Now go open a restaurant called McBoiled Lentils and see how many customers line up.


View original postBut we all know fast food makes us fat, right? Not necessarily. People who eat out tend to eat less at home that day in partial compensation; the net gain, according to a 2008 study out of Berkeley and Northwestern, is only about 24 calories a day.


View original postThe outraged replies to the notion of McDouble supremacy — if it’s not the cheapest, most nutritious and most bountiful food in human history, it has to be pretty close — comes from the usual coalition of class snobs, locavore foodies and militant anti-corporate types. I say usual because these people are forever proclaiming their support for the poor and for higher minimum wages that would supposedly benefit McDonald’s workers. But they’re completely heartless when it comes to the other side of the equation: cost.


View original postDriving up McDonald’s wage costs would drive up the price of burgers for millions of poor people. “So what?” say activists. Maybe that’ll drive people to farmers markets.


View original postFor the average poor person, it isn’t a great option to take a trip to the farmers market to puzzle over esoteric lefty-foodie codes. (Is sustainable better than organic? What if I have to choose between fair trade and cruelty-free?) Produce may seem cheap to environmentally aware blond moms who spend $300 on their highlights every month, but if your object is to fill your belly, it is hugely expensive per calorie.


View original postJunk food costs as little as $1.76 per 1,000 calories, whereas fresh veggies and the like cost more than 10 times as much, found a 2007 University of Washington survey for the Journal of the American Dietetic Association. A 2,000-calorie day of meals would, if you stuck strictly to the good-for-you stuff, cost $36.32, said the study’s lead author, Adam Drewnowski.


View original post“Not only are the empty calories cheaper,” he reported, “but the healthy foods are becoming more and more expensive. Vegetables and fruits are rapidly becoming luxury goods.” Where else but McDonald’s can poor people obtain so many calories per dollar?


View original postAnd as for organic — the Abercrombie and Fitch jeans of food — if you have to check the price, you can’t afford it. (Not that it has any health benefits, as last year’s huge Stanford meta-study showed.)


View original postMoreover, produce takes more time to prepare and spoils quickly, two more factors that effectively drive up the cost. Any time you’re spending peeling vegetables is time you aren’t spending on the job.


View original postActivists will go anywhere to wave the banner of caring and plant their flagpole of social justice right in the foot of the working class.


View original postForcing New Yorkers to pay unnecessary high prices, they’ve managed to keep Walmart out of the five boroughs of New York City. The City Council of Washington, DC, recently passed a bill, designed specifically to punish only Walmart, which would mandate a super-minimum wage to benefit a small number of employees while effectively placing a surtax on every Walmart shopper. (Walmart responded by saying it was canceling plans for three stores. The bill may yet be vetoed by Mayor Vincent Gray.)


View original postFuel prices, like food prices, disproportionately hit the poor, so do-gooders do everything they can to raise energy costs by blocking new fuel sources like the Keystone XL pipelines and fracking. And they are always up for higher gasoline taxes and regulating coal-burning energy plants to death.


View original postIf the macrobiotic Marxists had their way, of course, there’d be no McDonald’s, Walmart or Exxon, because they have visions of an ideal world in which everybody bikes to work with a handwoven backpack from Etsy that contains a lunch grown in the neighborhood collective.


View original postThat’s not going to work for the average person, but who cares if they go hungry because they can’t afford a burger anymore? Let them eat kale!


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The greatest food in human history? - 28/07/2013 05:13:31 PM 1350 Views
That would've been a rather more useful article... - 28/07/2013 06:31:01 PM 732 Views
If you are going hungry calories do matter - 28/07/2013 09:19:45 PM 659 Views
Maybe it's a bit of repression and projection onto the people who eat there? - 29/07/2013 01:36:10 AM 787 Views
He sounds like a nut. *NM* - 28/07/2013 08:29:29 PM 516 Views
unlike the people who think we should all eat food grown within 100 miles of where we live? - 28/07/2013 09:22:07 PM 758 Views
Supply issues of transportation are not entirely unjustified, though often exaggerated - 28/07/2013 10:38:04 PM 884 Views
population distrubution makes that solution unworkable - 28/07/2013 11:34:16 PM 758 Views
Since when? - 29/07/2013 05:11:52 AM 804 Views
I am all in favor os sensible thigs and try to practice them myself - 29/07/2013 01:03:45 PM 780 Views
They are nuts too. - 29/07/2013 03:30:46 PM 776 Views
My experiences with the whole organic, etc. people. - 29/07/2013 01:46:11 AM 766 Views
I thought he was being satirical. At least until I kept reading. - 29/07/2013 03:15:12 AM 725 Views
Depends on whether you live in a food desert or not. *NM* - 29/07/2013 01:10:56 PM 394 Views
fast food doesn't make you fat. To much food makes you fat - 29/07/2013 01:11:28 PM 820 Views
Too much food definitely makes you fat but in comparing apples to apples... - 29/07/2013 01:46:08 PM 823 Views
calories are calories - 29/07/2013 03:36:59 PM 830 Views
I don't agree with your subject - 29/07/2013 07:05:50 PM 923 Views
Yeah, I thought the same. Body totally contradicts subject. *NM* - 30/07/2013 02:50:59 AM 1008 Views
I was refering to weight gain not general health *NM* - 30/07/2013 05:38:15 PM 377 Views
And I still don't agree with you. - 30/07/2013 06:48:14 PM 714 Views
but you should be used to that by now *NM* - 30/07/2013 08:51:12 PM 475 Views
And I don't really see - 29/07/2013 02:55:41 PM 687 Views
Re: And I don't really see - 29/07/2013 05:29:55 PM 691 Views
Not to discount the points he makes, but what I find interesting ... - 29/07/2013 03:51:59 AM 754 Views
I don't know if thinks it is OK or just acept the reality of it - 29/07/2013 01:05:52 PM 746 Views
I'm sure you could live off them for quite a while. - 29/07/2013 01:38:09 PM 807 Views
Super Size me was BS - 29/07/2013 06:23:26 PM 653 Views
I eat mostly organic, homemade, etc - 29/07/2013 07:23:02 PM 761 Views
I think most of us track costs just as a self-justification though - 29/07/2013 08:43:09 PM 826 Views
Mm, somewhat. - 29/07/2013 10:38:22 PM 807 Views
Re: Mm, somewhat. - 29/07/2013 11:34:00 PM 766 Views
I have brown eggs and free rnage chicken in mmy fridge so I am not judging - 30/07/2013 01:12:51 PM 896 Views
- 30/07/2013 06:51:11 PM 787 Views
What, you have brown eggs?! - 30/07/2013 06:56:28 PM 768 Views
I know! - 30/07/2013 07:13:31 PM 760 Views
well I don't do the shopping just the eating - 30/07/2013 08:49:51 PM 675 Views
Well, eating is my favourite part of a meal too... - 30/07/2013 10:39:22 PM 627 Views
FYI: Egg shell color is determined by the breed of the hen, not by diet or living conditions. - 01/08/2013 05:04:32 PM 764 Views
So I have learned - 01/08/2013 05:53:18 PM 912 Views
Re: bird diet - 02/08/2013 02:51:23 PM 785 Views
WTF? Kale is good. *NM* - 01/08/2013 06:31:28 PM 430 Views

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