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Re: I am all in favor os sensible thigs and try to practice them myself Isaac Send a noteboard - 29/07/2013 08:04:26 PM

View original postThere is nothing wrong with people encouraging the sort of thing you are are talking about it is when they start acting like it is the only valid choice that it becomes a problem. I have a sad a mostly neglected home garden myself.

Well that comes back to who is 'they', you take abortion, there are some, some very vocal, persons who oppose any abortion period, even when it would be clear triage, "this baby is dying and taking its mother with it if we don't act now" situations, on the flip side there are those opposed to banning even those abortions which take place so late in pregnancy and are essentially deliveries that one tug would separate a healthy baby from mother. In between those positions are a lot more people who wouldn't want to be classified as 'they' and wouldn't want those lines of reasoning applied to their more rational arguments. You can even expand that to include banning birth control or allowing infanticide, those are rare positions but not unheard of, but very few pro-choicers or pro-lifers would want any association to either of those perspectives. They're not just carrying the analogy too far, they're running on a complete different set of core assumptions.

Same applies to a lot of these groups. Some would favor only eating food grown within effective walking distance, only 'organic' foods, only those plants native to the area, and only vegan ones at that.

This is an entirely different thing then someone who suggests we dump some encouragement money into trying to get more people to keep gardens and chicken coops or try to make it logistically easier for small farmers even down to gardener scale to distribute to local supermarkets. Making greenhouses of any-size tax-write offs, or simply exempt from sales tax, would be an idea (though probably not a great one, just thinking out loud), allowing schools with the space to have gardens for the kids which could fit as a biology/botany/recess sort of setup to greater expose that as a possible hobby and develop basic skills, even possibly as a sport-equivalent, a more physical team or individual thing then AV club, chess team, etc if obviously not track and field or football, akin to 4H clubs. Dumping some money into ads to reminding suburban and rural people that welfare money is typically allowed to be spent on seeds. Maybe even allowing window boxes, trowels, etc to be given away free of charge with a DVD on gardening, etc. Switching a school lunch in my area to be apple or grape juice boxes instead of orange, with a small cash incentive to schools for local acquisition, making that more local and also hopefully at least slightly encouraging future preference. These are the kind of things I mean when I say 'encouragement', and I think it is what most people, even those more vocal on 'locally grown' find palatable and acceptable. I think the 'they' is simply particular loud and crazy and heard more, same as the TEA party members back in 2010 were fairly normal folk but the guy interviewed for the TV was always the craziest, loudest person there.

The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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The greatest food in human history? - 28/07/2013 05:13:31 PM 1350 Views
That would've been a rather more useful article... - 28/07/2013 06:31:01 PM 732 Views
If you are going hungry calories do matter - 28/07/2013 09:19:45 PM 658 Views
Maybe it's a bit of repression and projection onto the people who eat there? - 29/07/2013 01:36:10 AM 787 Views
He sounds like a nut. *NM* - 28/07/2013 08:29:29 PM 515 Views
unlike the people who think we should all eat food grown within 100 miles of where we live? - 28/07/2013 09:22:07 PM 758 Views
Supply issues of transportation are not entirely unjustified, though often exaggerated - 28/07/2013 10:38:04 PM 884 Views
population distrubution makes that solution unworkable - 28/07/2013 11:34:16 PM 758 Views
Since when? - 29/07/2013 05:11:52 AM 804 Views
I am all in favor os sensible thigs and try to practice them myself - 29/07/2013 01:03:45 PM 780 Views
Re: I am all in favor os sensible thigs and try to practice them myself - 29/07/2013 08:04:26 PM 869 Views
They are nuts too. - 29/07/2013 03:30:46 PM 775 Views
My experiences with the whole organic, etc. people. - 29/07/2013 01:46:11 AM 766 Views
I thought he was being satirical. At least until I kept reading. - 29/07/2013 03:15:12 AM 725 Views
Depends on whether you live in a food desert or not. *NM* - 29/07/2013 01:10:56 PM 393 Views
fast food doesn't make you fat. To much food makes you fat - 29/07/2013 01:11:28 PM 820 Views
Too much food definitely makes you fat but in comparing apples to apples... - 29/07/2013 01:46:08 PM 822 Views
calories are calories - 29/07/2013 03:36:59 PM 830 Views
I don't agree with your subject - 29/07/2013 07:05:50 PM 923 Views
Yeah, I thought the same. Body totally contradicts subject. *NM* - 30/07/2013 02:50:59 AM 1008 Views
I was refering to weight gain not general health *NM* - 30/07/2013 05:38:15 PM 376 Views
And I still don't agree with you. - 30/07/2013 06:48:14 PM 714 Views
but you should be used to that by now *NM* - 30/07/2013 08:51:12 PM 475 Views
And I don't really see - 29/07/2013 02:55:41 PM 687 Views
Re: And I don't really see - 29/07/2013 05:29:55 PM 690 Views
Not to discount the points he makes, but what I find interesting ... - 29/07/2013 03:51:59 AM 754 Views
I don't know if thinks it is OK or just acept the reality of it - 29/07/2013 01:05:52 PM 746 Views
I'm sure you could live off them for quite a while. - 29/07/2013 01:38:09 PM 806 Views
Super Size me was BS - 29/07/2013 06:23:26 PM 653 Views
I eat mostly organic, homemade, etc - 29/07/2013 07:23:02 PM 760 Views
I think most of us track costs just as a self-justification though - 29/07/2013 08:43:09 PM 826 Views
Mm, somewhat. - 29/07/2013 10:38:22 PM 807 Views
Re: Mm, somewhat. - 29/07/2013 11:34:00 PM 766 Views
I have brown eggs and free rnage chicken in mmy fridge so I am not judging - 30/07/2013 01:12:51 PM 896 Views
- 30/07/2013 06:51:11 PM 787 Views
What, you have brown eggs?! - 30/07/2013 06:56:28 PM 768 Views
I know! - 30/07/2013 07:13:31 PM 760 Views
well I don't do the shopping just the eating - 30/07/2013 08:49:51 PM 675 Views
Well, eating is my favourite part of a meal too... - 30/07/2013 10:39:22 PM 627 Views
FYI: Egg shell color is determined by the breed of the hen, not by diet or living conditions. - 01/08/2013 05:04:32 PM 764 Views
So I have learned - 01/08/2013 05:53:18 PM 912 Views
Re: bird diet - 02/08/2013 02:51:23 PM 785 Views
WTF? Kale is good. *NM* - 01/08/2013 06:31:28 PM 430 Views

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