View original postSucks for him, but that's life.
"Natural born" is practically redundant, especially since the legal phrase predates artificial insemination by centuries. Birth refers to nativity; nativity, birth. Citizenship by descent and place of birth are equally "natural"—or should be. It is ambiguous enough that, even though both McCains parents were native to the US, and even though he was born in a US territorial possession, Congress felt obliged to pass a law formally declaring him a "natural born US citizen" prior to his '08 presidential run. Obama and Hillary were among the dozens of cosponsors; I think pretty much everyone (possibly excepting McCain) sponsored that bill.
I suspect the problem is we refer to gaining non-native citizenship as "naturalization," even though it is NOT "natural born" citizenship.
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US Birth, Father, Not Constitutionally Required for GOP President, Says Tea Party Candidate
- 22/08/2013 01:29:04 AM
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You are the only one I see bringing up Obama's citizenship. Most of America moved on long ago. *NM*
- 22/08/2013 01:41:22 AM
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A GOP Congressman brought it up 2 weeks ago and called it a great way to invalidate all Obama policy
- 22/08/2013 01:52:57 AM
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Wow. One DB in Congress is still throwing that out there, eh? 
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- 22/08/2013 08:56:01 PM
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- 22/08/2013 08:56:01 PM
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Classic doublethink: Tell convenient lie, immediately forget its falseness or charge, as convenient. *NM*
- 22/08/2013 02:15:31 AM
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see this is what happens to liberals when they only listen to thelittle voices inside their head
- 22/08/2013 01:00:24 PM
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The Dallas Morning News decided length; talk to them (and tell them I suggested paragraphs.)
- 22/08/2013 01:23:58 PM
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I do happpen to know the political editod of the DMN so I will talk to him
- 22/08/2013 08:31:15 PM
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Re: I do happpen to know the political editod of the DMN so I will talk to him *NM*
- 22/08/2013 08:31:20 PM
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Awesome; thanks.
- 23/08/2013 05:46:54 AM
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I see alot of birthers in the Ron Pauls supporters as well
- 23/08/2013 01:01:41 PM
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I claim no objectivity, but that strikes me as a distinction without a difference. 
- 23/08/2013 04:13:56 PM
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- 23/08/2013 04:13:56 PM
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If he wasn't born here, he shouldn't be eligable.
- 22/08/2013 07:18:18 PM
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John McCain wasn't born in the US either - shouldn't he have been eligible?
- 22/08/2013 09:52:17 PM
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- 23/08/2013 01:25:35 AM
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- 23/08/2013 01:25:35 AM
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Looks like Legolas covered it.
- 23/08/2013 05:56:02 AM
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Another subtle cog in the cause of Canadian domination. *NM*
- 22/08/2013 10:09:23 PM
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Or Cuban; he could probably retroactively claim citizenship there.
- 23/08/2013 05:57:57 AM
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Christ I hate this topic
- 23/08/2013 04:08:23 AM
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You make a good argument, but requiring presidents be citizens by birth sounds good to me.
- 23/08/2013 06:26:37 AM
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