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Paul is saying what he always has: The commander-in-chief needs Congress' permission to command Joel Send a noteboard - 03/09/2013 02:08:34 AM

View original postPlease point to how what they are saying matches what you are saying. By the way the WH is claiming that they don't need the approval of congress to act so it will be hard to claim later that he was bound by congress. Hell he bombs other countries on regular basis without congressional approval. He even bomber the moon.

Which, again, gives Obamas hasty "red line" pledge the escape clause he desperately wants in the face of overwhelming popular opposition. Lieberman and King are not saying he needs congressional assent, granted, but ARE saying he is obligated to ignore Congress and do the very thing the rest of their party threatened impeachment for doing without congressional approval. So, as lame as Obamas abrupt flip flop is, the "loyal" opposition mirroring it with a flip flop of their own is even lamer. He can at least claim intimidation from polling or make an appeal to constitutional balance of power: What is their excuse for saying the very thing they called impeachable for months is now a constitutional duty?
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So... a limited strike on Syria ? OrangeMini - 29/08/2013 04:31:07 PM 1300 Views
I would have supported action over a year ago, but not now. Tom - 29/08/2013 05:29:52 PM 789 Views
Rand Paul is a Leftist now? Joel - 30/08/2013 01:13:17 AM 933 Views
Killing people to not look bad! What a guy! Cannoli - 29/08/2013 05:44:59 PM 862 Views
Re: So... a limited strike on Syria ? DomA - 29/08/2013 10:43:15 PM 858 Views
I think you're wrong. Tom - 30/08/2013 04:44:53 AM 835 Views
I think the real question is "Just how crazy is Iran?" HyogaRott - 30/08/2013 01:48:49 PM 926 Views
You misunderstood me DomA - 30/08/2013 07:13:41 PM 783 Views
I don't think the Iranians are stupid enough to strike Tom - 01/09/2013 03:04:24 AM 742 Views
I don't really care Praziquantel - 30/08/2013 10:35:55 AM 806 Views
You can't effectively bomb Chemical and biological weapons stockpiles without using a nuke. HyogaRott - 30/08/2013 02:01:38 PM 841 Views
I am not a fan of symbolic bombing random thoughts - 30/08/2013 12:52:01 PM 860 Views
Looks like the buck inexplicably stops at Congress Joel - 31/08/2013 11:23:20 PM 760 Views
Well it sets a good precedent anyway Isaac - 01/09/2013 12:13:05 AM 732 Views
Unsure; I like the War Powers Resolution approach, though I am unsure of its constitutionality. Joel - 01/09/2013 01:49:15 AM 937 Views
Nice theory, to bad it is crap random thoughts - 01/09/2013 06:23:31 PM 788 Views
Again, Rand Paul is loony left now? Joel - 01/09/2013 10:15:17 PM 978 Views
Again you seem to have read most the words but completely missed the point random thoughts - 02/09/2013 06:48:26 PM 902 Views
Rand Paul=/=MSNBC Joel - 02/09/2013 09:30:50 PM 771 Views
No... not quite. Youre really are quite skilled at missing the point aren't you? HyogaRott - 02/09/2013 11:20:02 PM 814 Views
Oh, no, I got the point. Joel - 03/09/2013 01:48:01 AM 805 Views
The only "point" you have is the talking points, and you hit them all, facts be damned. *NM* HyogaRott - 03/09/2013 02:56:06 AM 316 Views
Considering the WPRs constitutionality and agreeing Obama is being cowardly are not talking points. Joel - 03/09/2013 03:52:44 AM 905 Views
Re: Considering the WPRs ... talking points. (had to snip it due to length) HyogaRott - 03/09/2013 05:49:08 PM 851 Views
"The only 'point' you have is the talking points...;" clearly those were not the sole points, Joel - 03/09/2013 10:08:43 PM 867 Views
Nah, I'm good, I've said what I wanted. I'm sure we'll get the opportunity to disagree again HyogaRott - 04/09/2013 05:58:47 AM 894 Views
Fox and Joe Lieberman=/=MSNBC either. Joel - 02/09/2013 10:21:16 PM 919 Views
Again you seem to have read most the words but completely missed the point random thoughts - 03/09/2013 01:17:29 AM 727 Views
Paul is saying what he always has: The commander-in-chief needs Congress' permission to command Joel - 03/09/2013 02:08:34 AM 732 Views
I see what the problem is random thoughts - 04/09/2013 01:07:08 PM 771 Views
More like the left hive does not know what the right hive is doing; Republicans are NOT cat herders. Joel - 04/09/2013 09:57:07 PM 840 Views
Yeah, I don't like any of it. Dannymac - 01/09/2013 12:40:35 AM 763 Views
Glad to hear you think he should more like Bush and asked congrees first random thoughts - 01/09/2013 06:27:03 PM 733 Views
How about no strike per the American people? Period. Fucking idiots in Washington. everynametaken - 01/09/2013 05:01:13 AM 815 Views
Re: How about no strike per the American people? Period. Fucking idiots in Washington. everynametaken - 01/09/2013 04:06:13 PM 857 Views
To be fair, that was what the American people said in 1940 Joel - 02/09/2013 05:19:46 AM 753 Views
Hall has frozen over... you are correct. HyogaRott - 02/09/2013 11:22:13 PM 828 Views
Well, glad we can agree on something. Joel - 03/09/2013 02:00:21 AM 825 Views
That comparison is not valid. everynametaken - 05/09/2013 09:25:38 PM 791 Views
Again, "I am not saying this situation is remotely like that one." Joel - 05/09/2013 10:48:39 PM 739 Views
I have to say, I am opposed to a strike against Assad. OrangeMini - 05/09/2013 10:46:04 AM 779 Views
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