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its going to be hard to find support from the West MrFarstrider Send a noteboard - 01/03/2014 06:37:15 PM

I think (and hope) people are starting to realize that proxy wars are becoming increasingly commonplace in a world of nuclear mutually assured destruction. World actors can no longer fight each other head to head and thus fight via proxies for some relatively insignificant purpose. In a post-Cold War, post-Iraq mess, people are less willing to throw dead bodies at a shadow war fighting for a who's dick is bigger chunk of world favoritism. A desire for a return to isolationism will increase until there is a war fighting purpose that legitimately resounds with the general population. That's not to say wars won't continue as the defense contractors gotta get paid so that they can re-elect politicians.... But the populace's support for them won't be significant.

We saw a lot of ire with operations in Syria, Libya, tough talk with Iran, and now Ukraine. The Russians will be able to get away with what they want because the West's population doesn't want to get involved in something insignificant just to put the Russians in their place. So, as a representative of public support, President Obama is completely limited on what he can do to Russia. You may be of the opinion that he should talk tough, kill millions of Americans in war to prove a point, nuke everybody to save the Ukraine from Red Russia but most people will be as quick to tell you to sit down and shut up as they were with taking military action in Syria.

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Don't Make me Laugh, Mr. Obama - 01/03/2014 03:14:50 AM 1478 Views
i like obama and even i think that was dumb of him. *NM* - 01/03/2014 05:24:39 AM 543 Views
yep yep. why do you hate on Kerry, though ? *NM* - 01/03/2014 08:11:52 AM 436 Views
He's a useless asshat. *NM* - 01/03/2014 04:14:54 PM 451 Views
He's not the only lame duck in this, though. - 01/03/2014 05:41:01 PM 1015 Views
It's a little more complicated than that, I think. - 01/03/2014 07:42:20 PM 867 Views
It's always more complicated... - 01/03/2014 08:57:54 PM 859 Views
Yes yes yes. This. - 01/03/2014 09:11:19 PM 806 Views
Well, we split on that then - I most certainly do not support such an annexation. - 01/03/2014 10:25:48 PM 808 Views
Any reason you keep misspelling Sevastopol? - 02/03/2014 12:52:01 AM 996 Views
You write "the Ukraine", while calling me old-fashioned? - 02/03/2014 01:57:58 AM 872 Views
Yes. Dropping "the" is an anti-Russian move. It will always be the Ukraine. - 02/03/2014 02:58:32 AM 876 Views
Just because there's an article in Russian doesn't mean there has to be one in English. - 02/03/2014 11:21:25 AM 814 Views
I say the Sudan and the Congo. - 02/03/2014 02:17:33 PM 867 Views
You do? Why? - 02/03/2014 03:21:56 PM 950 Views
its going to be hard to find support from the West - 01/03/2014 06:37:15 PM 816 Views
Obama is weak and is viewed as a joke by most of the world. - 03/03/2014 04:12:25 PM 752 Views
Don't worry, not as much as the ape before him *NM* - 04/03/2014 03:23:14 PM 465 Views
So what's your plan of action? - 03/03/2014 11:25:59 PM 823 Views
My plan of action is to let Putin have Ukraine. We have no interests there. *NM* - 04/03/2014 01:29:45 AM 479 Views
Ehem. Why are you being anti-Russian? ;-) - 04/03/2014 01:25:37 PM 846 Views
Of course we do - 04/03/2014 04:57:09 PM 846 Views
Wrong. - 04/03/2014 06:04:31 PM 755 Views
that ignores the point - 06/03/2014 02:01:09 PM 1001 Views
No, it doesn't. - 06/03/2014 02:57:16 PM 783 Views
Re: No, it doesn't. - 06/03/2014 06:22:32 PM 837 Views
Yes, the US violated the agreement. - 06/03/2014 07:27:23 PM 898 Views
I have answered your question but you have still refused to answer my point - 07/03/2014 01:48:53 PM 826 Views
You assume that the Ukraine's borders should be inviolate. - 09/03/2014 05:56:45 PM 850 Views
Russia signed an agreement to not violate those borders - 10/03/2014 12:18:37 PM 801 Views
Oh, and now the West is talking about $15 billion in loans for Ukraine. - 05/03/2014 11:41:12 PM 790 Views
And you see that as the same thing as sending in troops? - 06/03/2014 01:37:28 PM 787 Views
I think you've listened to too much propaganda from the 1990s. - 06/03/2014 03:06:18 PM 752 Views
More like the 80s - 07/03/2014 01:50:43 PM 805 Views
So I guess traveling to Russia extensively is of no value. - 09/03/2014 05:58:00 PM 754 Views
in this case no it doesn't. - 10/03/2014 12:20:13 PM 766 Views
The junk they used in Chechnya was laughable... - 16/03/2014 01:51:28 AM 943 Views
Its a great time to throw some missiles in Poland - 04/03/2014 03:43:24 AM 846 Views
Call me crazy, but I like this idea! - 04/03/2014 12:31:07 PM 972 Views
There are no longer two super powers *NM* - 04/03/2014 04:40:16 PM 442 Views
Under Obama, it would seem there are none. *NM* - 04/03/2014 06:15:27 PM 420 Views
at Poland *NM* - 04/03/2014 08:09:14 PM 423 Views
In case you're not familiar with BMD - 04/03/2014 11:13:06 PM 853 Views
I know what you're talking about, I was just kidding around *NM* - 04/03/2014 11:41:20 PM 453 Views
*NM* - 05/03/2014 12:38:54 AM 451 Views
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Ron Paul, interestingly enough, agrees with me. - 04/03/2014 02:38:44 PM 791 Views

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