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that ignores the point random thoughts Send a noteboard - 06/03/2014 02:01:09 PM

We promised them that their borders would be honored if they signed a nonproliferation treaty and gave up their nukes. Twenty years later the nation they gave their nukes to has invaded them and are using military force to set up a bogus referendum to steal part of their nation and the other nations has signed onto that promise are standing around make hollow promises of support.

The world is short sighted and naive if they don't think the next nation asked to sign or even honor a nonproliferation treaty won't look at this example. Hell, one of the arguments I keep hearing for not standing up to Putin is we need his help in Iran. I don't see how this sort of blatant disregard for the promises made to Ukraine will help the negotiations with Iran.

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Don't Make me Laugh, Mr. Obama Tom - 01/03/2014 03:14:50 AM 1561 Views
i like obama and even i think that was dumb of him. *NM* temeraire - 01/03/2014 05:24:39 AM 592 Views
yep yep. why do you hate on Kerry, though ? *NM* AgentApple - 01/03/2014 08:11:52 AM 486 Views
He's a useless asshat. *NM* Tom - 01/03/2014 04:14:54 PM 510 Views
He's not the only lame duck in this, though. DomA - 01/03/2014 05:41:01 PM 1124 Views
It's a little more complicated than that, I think. Legolas - 01/03/2014 07:42:20 PM 1000 Views
It's always more complicated... DomA - 01/03/2014 08:57:54 PM 970 Views
Yes yes yes. This. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:11:19 PM 890 Views
Well, we split on that then - I most certainly do not support such an annexation. Legolas - 01/03/2014 10:25:48 PM 906 Views
Any reason you keep misspelling Sevastopol? Tom - 02/03/2014 12:52:01 AM 1104 Views
You write "the Ukraine", while calling me old-fashioned? Legolas - 02/03/2014 01:57:58 AM 955 Views
Yes. Dropping "the" is an anti-Russian move. It will always be the Ukraine. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:58:32 AM 973 Views
Just because there's an article in Russian doesn't mean there has to be one in English. Legolas - 02/03/2014 11:21:25 AM 935 Views
I say the Sudan and the Congo. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:17:33 PM 956 Views
You do? Why? Legolas - 02/03/2014 03:21:56 PM 1058 Views
As with most analysis at the Guardian, I think it's wrong. Tom - 02/03/2014 05:00:20 PM 958 Views
This one from a former advisor of Reagan-Bush might be closer to your views DomA - 05/03/2014 09:01:13 PM 1164 Views
" la Crimée vaut bien un tiramisu" - I liked that. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:06:55 PM 997 Views
Yeah, I laughed reading that too. The original piece in English was probably better... DomA - 06/03/2014 02:08:03 AM 977 Views
I don't think it's limited to Crimea. They will likely occupy Eastern Ukraine as well. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:08:56 PM 905 Views
its going to be hard to find support from the West MrFarstrider - 01/03/2014 06:37:15 PM 920 Views
Well, no one in Europe or the US has any direct interest here. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:13:36 PM 852 Views
Obama is weak and is viewed as a joke by most of the world. Anonymous2000 - 03/03/2014 04:12:25 PM 836 Views
Don't worry, not as much as the ape before him *NM* ironclad - 04/03/2014 03:23:14 PM 512 Views
So what's your plan of action? Jay Sherman - 03/03/2014 11:25:59 PM 914 Views
My plan of action is to let Putin have Ukraine. We have no interests there. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 01:29:45 AM 526 Views
Ehem. Why are you being anti-Russian? ;-) The Shrike - 04/03/2014 01:25:37 PM 979 Views
Lack of space in a subject line that was the entire message. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:21:49 PM 906 Views
I watch дождь via etvnet.com. Lovely site for all Russian TV. The Shrike - 04/03/2014 08:23:58 PM 907 Views
I like their criticism of Putin generally, but I don't buy the "enemy of my enemy" position. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:39:15 PM 867 Views
Of course we do random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:57:09 PM 931 Views
Wrong. Tom - 04/03/2014 06:04:31 PM 855 Views
that ignores the point random thoughts - 06/03/2014 02:01:09 PM 1117 Views
No, it doesn't. Tom - 06/03/2014 02:57:16 PM 917 Views
Re: No, it doesn't. random thoughts - 06/03/2014 06:22:32 PM 956 Views
Yes, the US violated the agreement. Tom - 06/03/2014 07:27:23 PM 1012 Views
I have answered your question but you have still refused to answer my point random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:48:53 PM 928 Views
You assume that the Ukraine's borders should be inviolate. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:56:45 PM 959 Views
Russia signed an agreement to not violate those borders random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:18:37 PM 900 Views
Yes, and we signed the UN Charter, but invaded Kosovo anyway. Your point? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:10:33 PM 862 Views
Oh, and now the West is talking about $15 billion in loans for Ukraine. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:41:12 PM 886 Views
And you see that as the same thing as sending in troops? random thoughts - 06/03/2014 01:37:28 PM 872 Views
I think you've listened to too much propaganda from the 1990s. Tom - 06/03/2014 03:06:18 PM 853 Views
More like the 80s random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:50:43 PM 911 Views
So I guess traveling to Russia extensively is of no value. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:58:00 PM 860 Views
in this case no it doesn't. random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:20:13 PM 850 Views
Right...do you understand how stupid that made you sound? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:11:34 PM 872 Views
Or alternatively, it made him sound as someone who was just referring to something else than you. Legolas - 10/03/2014 08:14:00 PM 932 Views
The junk they used in Chechnya was laughable... everynametaken - 16/03/2014 01:51:28 AM 1049 Views
Its a great time to throw some missiles in Poland MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 03:43:24 AM 969 Views
Call me crazy, but I like this idea! MonCul - 04/03/2014 12:31:07 PM 1055 Views
There are no longer two super powers *NM* random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:40:16 PM 500 Views
Under Obama, it would seem there are none. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 06:15:27 PM 474 Views
at Poland *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 08:09:14 PM 482 Views
In case you're not familiar with BMD MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 11:13:06 PM 932 Views
I know what you're talking about, I was just kidding around *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 11:41:20 PM 500 Views
*NM* MrFarstrider - 05/03/2014 12:38:54 AM 498 Views
*NM* ßelals Girl - 05/03/2014 01:00:57 AM 491 Views
Ron Paul, interestingly enough, agrees with me. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:38:44 PM 880 Views
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