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the outrage comes from "Obama Derangement Syndrome", which is yet to make it into the DSM alas... moondog Send a noteboard - 03/06/2014 07:48:09 PM

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If there's anyone who has a right to be furious, it's the Afghans, since the main accusations against the five (or some of the five, rather) are that they bore responsibility for massacres perpetrated against Afghans prior to or during 2001. I'm not sure just how furious they actually are, though; for at least one of the five, Karzai has been calling for his release for years. And the Afghan press seems to have <a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27671637">mixed reactions</a>. If the Afghan government really was sidelined and they're not just saying that, they have every reason to be ticked off, but I'm not sure where all this American fury about the exchange is coming from.

The reaction of the soldiers in his platoon is a different story, of course, I certainly understand their resentment about him being welcomed as a hero if he was really a deserter who put their lives at risks during the searches for him. But that isn't really a sufficient reason for the government to not negotiate for his release.

Edit: I should add that I don't disagree with RT that this wasn't exactly good negotiating, giving up five high-profile leaders of the enemy in return for one insignificant soldier who was a deserter at that. I have no problem with the five being released, as such, but I do think a more substantial quid pro quo could and probably should have been obtained for that. But, again, it's mainly the Afghans who are affected by that, since the Americans are basically out of Afghanistan now anyway. And definitely will be by the time Qatar lets the five return home.


the problem is that there are a lot of people who are against everything Obama does, simply because he does it. at one point in time, it was a common belief that we leave none of our soldiers behind during a conflict. if Obama had left Bergdahl to die, these same people calling for Obama's head now for Bergdahl's release would have been calling for Obama's head in the other situation, because he would have let a soldier die at the enemy's hand. when even John McCain -- former POW John McCain -- says we should not have gotten this guy released, you can see the madness that has infected the "opposition" in this country.

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Obama negotiates with terrorists, gains the release of a US deserter and possible traitor. - 03/06/2014 04:44:35 AM 1429 Views
I don't think it is that cut and dry - 03/06/2014 01:00:16 PM 758 Views
It is now cut and dry, he is a deserter..... - 03/06/2014 04:18:21 PM 755 Views
Bull. Shit. - 03/06/2014 04:46:08 PM 877 Views
he has right to a trial - 03/06/2014 06:27:39 PM 718 Views
Well of course he does. I can't act as his judge, jury and executioner, either. - 03/06/2014 06:45:58 PM 867 Views
I think he is guilty as hell - 03/06/2014 11:24:02 PM 798 Views
I don't think he should have rot there, either. - 04/06/2014 04:05:18 AM 695 Views
I agree with with all of that *NM* - 04/06/2014 12:59:45 PM 411 Views
glad to see you put your politics above your country, tom - 04/06/2014 07:32:55 PM 753 Views
You're full of shit, as usual. - 04/06/2014 07:45:43 PM 679 Views
and you are more brainwashed, as usual - 04/06/2014 07:56:29 PM 719 Views
Moondog = braindead partisan hack - 04/06/2014 08:52:28 PM 671 Views
You really are stupid, aren't you? - 05/06/2014 05:26:38 PM 655 Views
thank you for having the reasonable approach to this - 03/06/2014 07:56:49 PM 733 Views
Obama is a weak fool - 03/06/2014 04:04:58 PM 685 Views
They should impeach the fucking douchebag. - 03/06/2014 04:48:28 PM 690 Views
I'm picturing you ranting to a half-empty bar as you wave a glass around, and it's amusing - 05/06/2014 03:52:15 PM 715 Views
Yeah, I don't really picture you at all. - 05/06/2014 05:20:48 PM 671 Views
Haha awww who's a Grouchy Gus today? - 05/06/2014 06:24:25 PM 670 Views
Sounds like you do picture him. *NM* - 07/06/2014 08:38:42 PM 342 Views
"Terrorists" doesn't seem accurate. Enemy combatants, okay, but even that was limited. - 03/06/2014 05:56:15 PM 754 Views
the outrage comes from "Obama Derangement Syndrome", which is yet to make it into the DSM alas... - 03/06/2014 07:48:09 PM 661 Views
Serious question....as Tom mentioned.....should Obama be impeached for this? - 03/06/2014 06:55:24 PM 655 Views
stupid answer: yes, impeach Obama at your earliest convenience *NM* - 03/06/2014 08:48:28 PM 475 Views
Funny that the military top brass agrees with it, then. - 03/06/2014 08:51:48 PM 737 Views
Sec. Gates was against it when he was Sec. of Defense, Panetta said hell no. *NM* - 04/06/2014 04:07:49 AM 364 Views
Yup, most top military leadership was against this reckless move. *NM* - 04/06/2014 04:26:16 AM 370 Views
STATEMENT BY JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF GENERAL MARTIN E. DEMPSEY - 04/06/2014 07:36:43 PM 706 Views
These people will say what Obama orders them to say. *NM* - 05/06/2014 06:17:14 AM 349 Views
Statement by Secretary of the Army John McHugh - 04/06/2014 07:37:35 PM 816 Views
lots of republicans were for Bergdahl's release before they were against it - 04/06/2014 07:42:45 PM 753 Views
you missed the one where they suggest trading high level captives for his return - 04/06/2014 09:37:22 PM 687 Views
Oh wait, that's because it doesn't exist... *NM* - 05/06/2014 06:18:11 AM 375 Views
you do know I was being sarcastic? - 05/06/2014 06:11:39 PM 809 Views
Oh yes. I was just adding to the general tone. - 06/06/2014 03:01:11 PM 682 Views
so you must know all the details since you're secretly a top-level government official? - 05/06/2014 08:41:14 PM 703 Views
was this a reply to the correct comment? *NM* - 06/06/2014 05:45:16 PM 385 Views
no *NM* - 03/06/2014 11:19:09 PM 372 Views
Guerrillas or insurgents, actually. - 04/06/2014 01:47:26 AM 870 Views
Does Bowe Bergdahl = Nicholas Brady? - 04/06/2014 04:30:02 AM 722 Views
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. - 04/06/2014 09:29:15 PM 677 Views
Absolutely not. - 05/06/2014 06:21:59 AM 656 Views
Re: Absolutely not. - 05/06/2014 08:43:55 PM 678 Views
You seem to have missed the concept of "Justified" in there - 07/06/2014 11:36:25 PM 800 Views
no, i'm pretty sure i got it right - 09/06/2014 09:37:49 PM 678 Views
Re: no, i'm pretty sure i got it right - 10/06/2014 03:43:49 AM 703 Views
a few facts you are neglecting - 11/06/2014 07:08:16 PM 592 Views
You may want to not paint everyone with the same brush there. - 11/06/2014 08:03:31 PM 681 Views
Thank you *NM* - 11/06/2014 11:01:58 PM 453 Views
I... don't really care, to be honest - 05/06/2014 03:17:25 PM 726 Views
I'm kinda undecided on this - 06/06/2014 03:32:16 AM 711 Views

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