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There is a precedent that everyone is ignoring. Tom Send a noteboard - 22/11/2015 06:40:05 PM

The Manchester Guardian has always been a far left piece of shit newspaper that casts everything in a very skewed light. If there were any poetic justice in this world, its offices would be bombed by a massive suicide attack by people it has been casting as victims for decades. It is one of the major contributors to the entire culture of victimization that is turning the West into a society of whining, incompetent, hypersensitive infants.

But enough about them and their red banner. Their article is very careful to avoid noting that many of the citizens are the children born to all the Somalis that the US was stupid enough to take in back in the 1990s. This community moved to Minneapolis, where it has not integrated. This community is the basis for the taxi drivers who refused to take intoxicated passengers or passengers with dogs for religious reasons. This community has spawned recruits for al-Shabaab in huge numbers (note they left out other jihadi groups when talking about this case, cherry-picking their data to create a false narrative, something the Guardian is good at doing). It has led to domestic terrorism, and it is fueling a massive influx of more of the same as these people slowly but surely take advantage of the immigration laws to invite their entire extended families to the US.

The Syrian refugees, if resettled in the US, run the risk of becoming the same problem. Perhaps it won't happen now, but it will happen within 10 years as children grow up. The problem is that unless and until they integrate fully into American life they will be alienated and ripe for recruitment by ISIS or whatever crazy group comes out of the woodwork next.

And you're right - we have no OBLIGATION to take anyone. People can call us mean or heartless or whatever, but I fully support limiting immigration of refugees coming from a civil war that helped to create ISIS (oh yes, I saw this whole argument about whether they started in Iraq or Syria, but the Syrian civil war was where they really got started; prior to that they were marginalized and had no place to gather and plan).

EDIT: I just added a link to a PDF with over 50 names of Americans who have joined al Shabaab. The list is not exhaustive.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
Americans joining al Shabaab
This message last edited by Tom on 22/11/2015 at 06:45:32 PM
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Can people really be this stupid? - 21/11/2015 12:36:55 PM 1655 Views
Your argument would be a lot more convincing if it weren't for the puny numbers. - 21/11/2015 02:12:23 PM 785 Views
Still too much *NM* - 21/11/2015 10:59:15 PM 508 Views
There is a precedent that everyone is ignoring. - 22/11/2015 06:40:05 PM 620 Views
I assume that is rhetorical question since the answer is almost always yes *NM* - 23/11/2015 08:19:50 PM 377 Views
you know it's mostly white christians who commit terrorist acts on US soil, right? - 24/11/2015 11:08:42 PM 767 Views
That is only true becuase of the morons who decide who is a terrorist - 25/11/2015 02:03:32 PM 459 Views
Those morons are specifically the Southern Poverty Law Center, a far left group. - 25/11/2015 02:05:57 PM 515 Views
the FBI and DHS are hardly far left groups - 25/11/2015 06:49:44 PM 486 Views
Ah yes, play the race card. - 25/11/2015 07:09:29 PM 511 Views
which race card is that? - 30/11/2015 07:14:05 PM 497 Views
Since Obama took over the Justice Department ahs become a far left poltical group - 26/11/2015 03:05:46 PM 535 Views
wow, you actually believe that bullshit? - 30/11/2015 07:22:10 PM 603 Views
Do you actaully tbelieve the stupid shit you right? The vast maority of the senate is far right? - 01/12/2015 09:10:31 PM 873 Views
While I'd have to agree with your subject line... - 01/12/2015 10:54:08 PM 590 Views
I don't like lynch mobs it is as simple as that - 02/12/2015 04:08:00 PM 511 Views
what part of "treat everyone the same" is so hard for you to grasp? - 03/12/2015 09:34:54 PM 532 Views
In some cases they were proven wrong, in others not. - 04/12/2015 12:49:50 AM 556 Views
By their own definition they should be on the list *NM* - 26/11/2015 02:59:01 PM 242 Views
In the sense that Obama is a Christian, sure. - 01/12/2015 11:36:29 PM 628 Views

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