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I've voted for them before yes. Wibble Send a noteboard - 03/10/2009 02:28:31 PM
And can we stop calling it the Lisbon Treaty and call it by it's real name, The European Constitution, since that is exactly what it is rebranded, and the 'misinformation' starts there. No guv, it's not the constituton anymore, honest, so you don't need to vote on it honest...nothing to do with the fact it was rejected by France, Netherlands and was easily going to be defeated in many other countries. Just trust us your glorious leaders to do the right thing, we'll ratify it without you, run along now *pat, pat*.

Oh wait, Irelands constitution means they still need to vote on it, um...oh dear they said no...bad Ireland, we'll take everything away from you if you do not say the right thing...vote again, say Yes, that's an order.

Brown will lose his job over this, amongst other things, but by then it'll be to late for the UK. And the anger that causes in this country is phenomenal.

And yes the EU is to large and cumbersome now, but maybe that is because it has been turned into something it was never meant to be. Federalism by stealth.
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