Active Users:883 Time:31/07/2026 05:02:19 PM
I've voted for them before yes. Wibble Send a noteboard - 03/10/2009 02:28:31 PM
And can we stop calling it the Lisbon Treaty and call it by it's real name, The European Constitution, since that is exactly what it is rebranded, and the 'misinformation' starts there. No guv, it's not the constituton anymore, honest, so you don't need to vote on it honest...nothing to do with the fact it was rejected by France, Netherlands and was easily going to be defeated in many other countries. Just trust us your glorious leaders to do the right thing, we'll ratify it without you, run along now *pat, pat*.

Oh wait, Irelands constitution means they still need to vote on it, um...oh dear they said no...bad Ireland, we'll take everything away from you if you do not say the right thing...vote again, say Yes, that's an order.

Brown will lose his job over this, amongst other things, but by then it'll be to late for the UK. And the anger that causes in this country is phenomenal.

And yes the EU is to large and cumbersome now, but maybe that is because it has been turned into something it was never meant to be. Federalism by stealth.
Reply to message
Ireland accepts Lisbon Treaty - 03/10/2009 02:09:29 PM 1455 Views
A sad sad day for europe - 03/10/2009 02:13:53 PM 892 Views
Please tell me you didn't vote UKIP at least. - 03/10/2009 02:21:38 PM 905 Views
I've voted for them before yes. - 03/10/2009 02:28:31 PM 917 Views
Sigh. - 03/10/2009 02:46:27 PM 957 Views
United States of Europe! Here we come. - 03/10/2009 02:25:16 PM 929 Views
Let's hope you won't, because you most certainly would vote no. - 03/10/2009 02:27:48 PM 888 Views
We don't get a vote, because we would not say the right thing. So fuck democracy. - 03/10/2009 02:29:25 PM 829 Views
So I've just found out on Wikipedia. Craziness. *NM* - 03/10/2009 02:31:04 PM 478 Views
Please explain this to me - 03/10/2009 11:04:32 PM 770 Views
Yes, that's obviously it... - 04/10/2009 12:57:39 AM 1174 Views
Why does Tim think No is the right choice? - 03/10/2009 11:02:53 PM 840 Views
She never said that - 03/10/2009 11:22:43 PM 942 Views
Okay, why? - 04/10/2009 12:05:43 AM 784 Views
Hehe - 04/10/2009 10:06:40 AM 824 Views
I'm not sure this is an entirely fair analysis. - 03/10/2009 09:18:31 PM 821 Views
Sort of. - 04/10/2009 02:19:56 AM 943 Views
What would you say is the most important effect and/or overall significance of the treaty? *NM* - 03/10/2009 02:30:29 PM 380 Views
Mostly making the EU less unwieldy. - 03/10/2009 02:37:06 PM 857 Views
Thanks! *NM* - 03/10/2009 02:42:04 PM 383 Views
Why on earth would you want to let Turkey in? - 03/10/2009 04:05:24 PM 894 Views
Several reasons. - 03/10/2009 04:41:59 PM 992 Views
There are a few others. - 03/10/2009 09:03:40 PM 824 Views
I'm sorry, but I don't really see a lot of progress - 04/10/2009 03:16:42 AM 808 Views
Then you aren't looking hard enough. - 04/10/2009 07:20:39 AM 989 Views
It's the old carrot-on-a-stick technique. - 04/10/2009 12:34:08 PM 816 Views
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *NM* - 03/10/2009 06:15:56 PM 402 Views
What? You're a Eurosceptic American? *NM* - 03/10/2009 09:14:56 PM 382 Views
It also puts David Cameron in a difficult position - 03/10/2009 09:11:41 PM 887 Views
Good point. - 03/10/2009 09:28:03 PM 904 Views
Re: Good point. - 03/10/2009 09:47:58 PM 935 Views
I'm torn and I have some questions - 03/10/2009 10:53:40 PM 1005 Views
Re: I'm torn and I have some questions - 04/10/2009 07:45:35 AM 1008 Views
hallelujah! - 04/10/2009 09:49:39 PM 920 Views
Indeed. - 05/10/2009 02:00:29 PM 870 Views
I am pleased by this. Here is hoping for an effective elected leader. - 05/10/2009 03:20:36 PM 873 Views
Yeah, that's true... - 05/10/2009 03:42:29 PM 841 Views
So the European parliament will not elect the leader? - 05/10/2009 05:08:25 PM 865 Views
Er, that's news to me... but let's look it up. - 05/10/2009 05:14:09 PM 817 Views
I would have rejected any treaty that would not let me elect a representative or - 05/10/2009 06:14:46 PM 838 Views
Honestly, that would never be on the table. - 05/10/2009 06:37:25 PM 831 Views
So would most of europe. - 05/10/2009 07:22:41 PM 806 Views

Reply to Message