The thing with North Korea, is that if they didn't have nuclear weapons, no one would give a rats ass about North Korea, that's the sad truth of the matter. They have no resources to speak of and their economy is in tatters. Which is why I believe NK will never give them up, because they wouldn't get any attention and they'd have absolutely no leverage.
Iran is in a much different situation then that, their a regional power in the middle east and in central asia, with or without nuclear weapons. It's domestic political situation is much more complicated and complex. And they have Oil.... lots of it. Of course a nuclear weapon will always be the ultimate deterrent for rogue regimes, but it comes at a huge cost.
China seldom acts alone on a veto without the Russians, and vice versa. Neither of them like being isolated on the Security Council - If the US, UK, France, and Russia support a resolution on increasing sanctions against Iran, China will abstain. The Russians really are the key on this.
Iran is in a much different situation then that, their a regional power in the middle east and in central asia, with or without nuclear weapons. It's domestic political situation is much more complicated and complex. And they have Oil.... lots of it. Of course a nuclear weapon will always be the ultimate deterrent for rogue regimes, but it comes at a huge cost.
As for Toms point on the terror of increased sanctions, I'm not convinced. As long as China threatens a veto (and as long as they're playing nuclear arms dealer to the world they will) the US can only act unilaterally, so there will still be plenty of places Iran can get what they want. Might cost more, but they'll get what the regime requires.
China seldom acts alone on a veto without the Russians, and vice versa. Neither of them like being isolated on the Security Council - If the US, UK, France, and Russia support a resolution on increasing sanctions against Iran, China will abstain. The Russians really are the key on this.
Maybe it's just bluster on their part, but if so they'll look making an unnecessary veto threat then backing down when Russia supports the rest of the Security Council. Russia now has strong reason to do so, since the economic benefits of Iran getting nuclear energy fuel processed there could be as great as selling Iran nuclear weapons technology, with far less risk.
No, on a host of issues, the rapidly increasing economic and diplomatic influence of China is far more critical than Russias. Both countries, however, recognize that for either to gain the long coveted global position America enjoys America must first be removed from it. Most people seem to take the attitude that America has too much influence and the world needs to reduce that to have a partnership of equals. Thing is, the world has never done that; attempts to do so result in a global power vacuum someone always fills. Russia and China both hope to be the ones to do that, but China is in a far better position, largely thanks to our aid and the collapse of Russia with the Soviets fall. It's more likely they'll continue to work together against the US than oppose each other in the short term; they can always pull what Hitler did with the von Ribbentrop Pact, but in the interim they're increasingly presenting a united front, and increasingly getting global support:
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/366/15273_alliance.html
http://www.heritage.org/Research/RussiaandEurasia/BG1459.cfm
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Did Iran just blink?
06/10/2009 08:45:28 AM
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One hopes for the best, but we'll see in the long run.
06/10/2009 03:11:47 PM
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For once I agree with you completely.
06/10/2009 07:43:52 PM
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You can't really compare the situation in NK to Iran
07/10/2009 07:13:02 AM
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Not completely, but there are many parallels.
07/10/2009 10:37:53 AM
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Apples and Oranges, really
07/10/2009 08:22:54 PM
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