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Meh Brian Send a noteboard - 23/10/2009 08:06:22 PM
I think hate crime laws are usually pretty silly and superfluous. "Let's take something that's already a crime and make it a federal crime as well as a state crime, because that's going to discourage someone from going out and beating up someone of another race or sexual orientation."
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Matthew Shepard act passed Dominic - 23/10/2009 07:54:07 PM 845 Views
Meh Brian - 23/10/2009 08:06:22 PM 464 Views
Federal punishment is usually harsher then state law Ryan - 23/10/2009 09:27:49 PM 452 Views
I honestly don't care that federal law is more harsh Brian - 24/10/2009 01:04:16 AM 442 Views
68-29, eh? Party line division? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 23/10/2009 08:25:07 PM 168 Views
More or less Isaac - 23/10/2009 08:35:10 PM 454 Views
All hate crime legislation is stupid..... trzaska2000 - 23/10/2009 10:15:02 PM 461 Views
I'm sure Orwell would be intrigued by his own prognosticative abilities. LiterateDog - 24/10/2009 12:52:24 AM 471 Views
Didn't we already slice crimes by degree of intention (e.g., murder vs. manslaughter) pre-Orwell? Burr - 24/10/2009 05:23:56 AM 454 Views
Not sure I agree there Isaac - 24/10/2009 02:29:13 PM 437 Views
How about DADT, or employment non discrimination, or federal benefits for civil unions/marriages? Roland00 - 24/10/2009 01:23:06 AM 462 Views
See..this is much more important than Hate Crime Legislation, and it actually accomplishes something *NM* Brian - 24/10/2009 01:52:31 AM 166 Views
Agreed, but Roland00 - 24/10/2009 02:12:11 AM 431 Views
I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 02:22:46 AM 437 Views
I'm sure the law is not supposed to deter crime, but rather to ensure justice. Burr - 24/10/2009 03:49:58 AM 379 Views
Which is one of the failures of the American Justice system Brian - 24/10/2009 04:53:33 AM 409 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:07:52 AM 480 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 04:51:43 AM 447 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 05:02:27 AM 428 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 05:27:35 AM 417 Views
So it's inherently worse for a gay man to get beaten up than a straight guy? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 03:45:43 AM 483 Views
Doesn't there have to be an indication ... Nate - 24/10/2009 04:33:49 AM 421 Views
Doesn't matter, Same crime, same punishment, with no extra preference given to anyone. beckstcw - 24/10/2009 04:48:22 AM 410 Views
It does matter to what you were saying, though. Nate - 24/10/2009 06:32:32 AM 486 Views
One factor in this I don't like though Isaac - 24/10/2009 01:54:53 PM 431 Views
Correct Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:55:43 AM 427 Views
All orientations are protected. yew - 24/10/2009 05:17:55 AM 424 Views
Isn't killing or assaulting someone already illegal? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 05:50:15 AM 416 Views
As per my reply to you above: Nate - 24/10/2009 06:42:24 AM 431 Views
I said nothing as to what I think about hate crimes laws. yew - 24/10/2009 06:47:51 AM 427 Views
yes and how many black men are sentenced for attacking white men? random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:00:26 PM 402 Views
Couldn't say, Ray. yew - 25/10/2009 04:43:12 AM 576 Views
I don't support that anymore then I support hate crime laws. random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:33:27 PM 442 Views
they need to throw out all of the thought crime laws *NM* random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:04:30 PM 149 Views
Minor point. Palatine - 24/10/2009 04:46:25 PM 453 Views
Yeah I saw that and kind of scoffed as well Brian - 24/10/2009 07:57:23 PM 440 Views
well since almost everything he said turned out to be BS why not that too? random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:36:25 PM 435 Views
That's my main objection, yes. Legolas - 25/10/2009 10:50:49 PM 431 Views
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