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I'm sure the law is not supposed to deter crime, but rather to ensure justice. Burr Send a noteboard - 24/10/2009 03:49:58 AM
Crimes against certain groups tend to be sentenced more leniently than usual. One can expect more variance in this the more locally and less visibly the case is prosecuted. That is why federal prosecution is a good thing for hate crimes. On the other hand, I'm rather dubious about how hate-crimes legislation mandates sentences. The legislation should increase the minimum sentence for hate crimes, but sentencing should still be capped at the normal maximum sentence.
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Matthew Shepard act passed Dominic - 23/10/2009 07:54:07 PM 954 Views
Meh Brian - 23/10/2009 08:06:22 PM 555 Views
Federal punishment is usually harsher then state law Ryan - 23/10/2009 09:27:49 PM 542 Views
I honestly don't care that federal law is more harsh Brian - 24/10/2009 01:04:16 AM 527 Views
68-29, eh? Party line division? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 23/10/2009 08:25:07 PM 205 Views
More or less Isaac - 23/10/2009 08:35:10 PM 546 Views
All hate crime legislation is stupid..... trzaska2000 - 23/10/2009 10:15:02 PM 551 Views
I'm sure Orwell would be intrigued by his own prognosticative abilities. LiterateDog - 24/10/2009 12:52:24 AM 567 Views
Didn't we already slice crimes by degree of intention (e.g., murder vs. manslaughter) pre-Orwell? Burr - 24/10/2009 05:23:56 AM 549 Views
Not sure I agree there Isaac - 24/10/2009 02:29:13 PM 534 Views
How about DADT, or employment non discrimination, or federal benefits for civil unions/marriages? Roland00 - 24/10/2009 01:23:06 AM 553 Views
See..this is much more important than Hate Crime Legislation, and it actually accomplishes something *NM* Brian - 24/10/2009 01:52:31 AM 198 Views
Agreed, but Roland00 - 24/10/2009 02:12:11 AM 515 Views
I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 02:22:46 AM 533 Views
I'm sure the law is not supposed to deter crime, but rather to ensure justice. Burr - 24/10/2009 03:49:58 AM 469 Views
Which is one of the failures of the American Justice system Brian - 24/10/2009 04:53:33 AM 504 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:07:52 AM 570 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 04:51:43 AM 553 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 05:02:27 AM 522 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 05:27:35 AM 505 Views
So it's inherently worse for a gay man to get beaten up than a straight guy? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 03:45:43 AM 653 Views
Doesn't there have to be an indication ... Nate - 24/10/2009 04:33:49 AM 514 Views
Doesn't matter, Same crime, same punishment, with no extra preference given to anyone. beckstcw - 24/10/2009 04:48:22 AM 505 Views
It does matter to what you were saying, though. Nate - 24/10/2009 06:32:32 AM 578 Views
One factor in this I don't like though Isaac - 24/10/2009 01:54:53 PM 522 Views
Correct Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:55:43 AM 515 Views
All orientations are protected. yew - 24/10/2009 05:17:55 AM 515 Views
Isn't killing or assaulting someone already illegal? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 05:50:15 AM 501 Views
As per my reply to you above: Nate - 24/10/2009 06:42:24 AM 529 Views
I said nothing as to what I think about hate crimes laws. yew - 24/10/2009 06:47:51 AM 523 Views
yes and how many black men are sentenced for attacking white men? random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:00:26 PM 499 Views
Couldn't say, Ray. yew - 25/10/2009 04:43:12 AM 687 Views
I don't support that anymore then I support hate crime laws. random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:33:27 PM 536 Views
they need to throw out all of the thought crime laws *NM* random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:04:30 PM 189 Views
Minor point. Palatine - 24/10/2009 04:46:25 PM 545 Views
Yeah I saw that and kind of scoffed as well Brian - 24/10/2009 07:57:23 PM 528 Views
well since almost everything he said turned out to be BS why not that too? random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:36:25 PM 527 Views
That's my main objection, yes. Legolas - 25/10/2009 10:50:49 PM 518 Views
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