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I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian Send a noteboard - 24/10/2009 02:22:46 AM
Like if the legislation was targeted towards violent groups that commit those types of crimes. Like the KKK, or Neo-Nazis, etc....as a law aimed towards individuals I think it is pointless, and the money would be better served educating young people.

What they're doing makes enough sense to me, they're making the law provide equal protection, or whatever you want to call it, but I just don't think hate crime legislation on the whole is an effective method of preventing or punishing these crimes.

If I hate someone because they're gay the thought of going to federal prison instead of state prison isn't likely to keep me from committing the crime, and in either case I'm going to prison and will just have my attitudes reinforced while I'm there.
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Matthew Shepard act passed - 23/10/2009 07:54:07 PM 865 Views
Meh - 23/10/2009 08:06:22 PM 480 Views
Federal punishment is usually harsher then state law - 23/10/2009 09:27:49 PM 470 Views
I honestly don't care that federal law is more harsh - 24/10/2009 01:04:16 AM 461 Views
68-29, eh? Party line division? *NM* - 23/10/2009 08:25:07 PM 174 Views
More or less - 23/10/2009 08:35:10 PM 471 Views
All hate crime legislation is stupid..... - 23/10/2009 10:15:02 PM 479 Views
I'm sure Orwell would be intrigued by his own prognosticative abilities. - 24/10/2009 12:52:24 AM 488 Views
Didn't we already slice crimes by degree of intention (e.g., murder vs. manslaughter) pre-Orwell? - 24/10/2009 05:23:56 AM 472 Views
Not sure I agree there - 24/10/2009 02:29:13 PM 458 Views
How about DADT, or employment non discrimination, or federal benefits for civil unions/marriages? - 24/10/2009 01:23:06 AM 478 Views
See..this is much more important than Hate Crime Legislation, and it actually accomplishes something *NM* - 24/10/2009 01:52:31 AM 171 Views
Agreed, but - 24/10/2009 02:12:11 AM 449 Views
I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me - 24/10/2009 02:22:46 AM 455 Views
So it's inherently worse for a gay man to get beaten up than a straight guy? - 24/10/2009 03:45:43 AM 551 Views
Doesn't there have to be an indication ... - 24/10/2009 04:33:49 AM 437 Views
Doesn't matter, Same crime, same punishment, with no extra preference given to anyone. - 24/10/2009 04:48:22 AM 427 Views
It does matter to what you were saying, though. - 24/10/2009 06:32:32 AM 502 Views
One factor in this I don't like though - 24/10/2009 01:54:53 PM 449 Views
Correct - 24/10/2009 04:55:43 AM 445 Views
All orientations are protected. - 24/10/2009 05:17:55 AM 441 Views
Isn't killing or assaulting someone already illegal? - 24/10/2009 05:50:15 AM 433 Views
As per my reply to you above: - 24/10/2009 06:42:24 AM 448 Views
I said nothing as to what I think about hate crimes laws. - 24/10/2009 06:47:51 AM 444 Views
yes and how many black men are sentenced for attacking white men? - 24/10/2009 02:00:26 PM 419 Views
Couldn't say, Ray. - 25/10/2009 04:43:12 AM 595 Views
I don't support that anymore then I support hate crime laws. - 25/10/2009 02:33:27 PM 462 Views
they need to throw out all of the thought crime laws *NM* - 24/10/2009 02:04:30 PM 159 Views
Minor point. - 24/10/2009 04:46:25 PM 473 Views
Yeah I saw that and kind of scoffed as well - 24/10/2009 07:57:23 PM 459 Views
well since almost everything he said turned out to be BS why not that too? - 25/10/2009 02:36:25 PM 454 Views
That's my main objection, yes. - 25/10/2009 10:50:49 PM 448 Views

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