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The greenhouse effect without with the global average temperature would be in the ballpark of -15C? Floffe Send a noteboard - 24/11/2009 03:24:40 PM
you got your myths mixed up

The one discovered in the early 1800's and quantified in the later part of that century? Where water vapour provides around half the effect, maybe 75%? Still a myth?
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No, I am sure global warming is just a myth. </sarcasm> Camilla - 24/11/2009 01:23:50 PM 926 Views
That ice is not melting - everyone knows temperatures aren't going up. snoopcester - 24/11/2009 01:30:12 PM 610 Views
Precisely. Camilla - 24/11/2009 01:31:17 PM 582 Views
*NM* ironclad - 24/11/2009 01:52:03 PM 349 Views
They say that it's vanishing because it's melting... TaskmasterJack - 24/11/2009 01:49:24 PM 577 Views
*NM* Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:20:00 PM 372 Views
While I believe that the climate is changing The Secret Lurker - 24/11/2009 02:10:53 PM 891 Views
Not to excuse tomfoolery of any kind (fun word )... ironclad - 24/11/2009 02:14:41 PM 525 Views
You never deviate from serious and exact wording in your private e-mails? *NM* Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:21:22 PM 350 Views
I think this is a bit more than a deviation. The Secret Lurker - 24/11/2009 02:33:49 PM 778 Views
Sales figures are a good example snoopcester - 24/11/2009 02:48:44 PM 559 Views
Re: I think this is a bit more than a deviation. Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:49:30 PM 692 Views
Climategate is a big scandal.....very damaging to the AGW kool-aid drinkers. trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:53:27 PM 543 Views
Exactly; just look at these guys: Joel - 24/11/2009 05:38:33 PM 850 Views
Greenland was much less icy back in the days when it was first settled. Tom - 24/11/2009 02:29:50 PM 650 Views
From what I understand Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:45:04 PM 702 Views
Bingo - global temp goes up and down via variables way too complicated to know..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:44:38 PM 592 Views
No one seriously argues against climate change. The myth is called the greenhouse effect AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 02:31:30 PM 566 Views
Yes they do. Well, depending how seriously you take trzaska2000 and others of his ilk... snoopcester - 24/11/2009 02:53:33 PM 560 Views
I believe copy-right was aiming a bit higher than a specific person. You're not supposed to do that AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 03:17:31 PM 542 Views
But I was just using him as an example - to show that some people who think global warming a myth snoopcester - 24/11/2009 03:27:13 PM 546 Views
I am not as crazy as Joel!!! trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:48:33 PM 699 Views
You keep telling yourself that snoopcester - 24/11/2009 04:31:01 PM 588 Views
That may be the first time I've seen an ad hominem against someone not present. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:13:29 PM 525 Views
trzaska is way beyond joel on the madness-meter. Camilla - 24/11/2009 03:53:09 PM 667 Views
Please explain..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:56:51 PM 678 Views
I wouldn't know where to begin. Camilla - 24/11/2009 04:20:38 PM 678 Views
Not for a European, but for an American..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 04:29:59 PM 342 Views
bull you're middle of the road. LadyLorraine - 24/11/2009 06:11:52 PM 526 Views
Define "middle of the road" then..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 06:25:59 PM 345 Views
About a hundred meters to the left of you. *NM* Camilla - 24/11/2009 06:59:49 PM 374 Views
That comment is irrelevant without a frame of reference..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 07:24:26 PM 573 Views
Re: That comment is irrelevant without a frame of reference..... Camilla - 24/11/2009 07:25:18 PM 530 Views
I'd agree that you're middle of the road as far as policy goes... Legolas - 24/11/2009 08:10:59 PM 527 Views
That's pretty accurate.....I do enjoy colorful rhetoric! trzaska2000 - 25/11/2009 04:14:25 PM 511 Views
I'm not convinced snoopcester - 24/11/2009 04:34:50 PM 575 Views
That's not exactly what I said. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:06:44 PM 739 Views
I never said anyone is crazy. That is up to individual rafonauts' doctors. *NM* AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 04:02:43 PM 333 Views
You did open a helluva can of worms though, deliberately or not. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:10:57 PM 657 Views
I was ridiculing myself for pointing to you at that earlier post a few days ago *NM* AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 06:22:04 PM 246 Views
Fair enough then. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:24:36 PM 539 Views
Re: You're not supposed to do that Joel - 24/11/2009 06:14:58 PM 518 Views
I submit myself to your punishment AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 06:24:26 PM 681 Views
It's cool, man. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:31:17 PM 544 Views
For the record, I'm sorry I got so huffy over something I was fairly sure you didn't mean seriously. The Name With No Man - 25/11/2009 12:28:46 PM 717 Views
Silly snoop.....my beef is with AGW, not GW in general..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:46:15 PM 591 Views
You should be clearer then snoopcester - 24/11/2009 04:30:04 PM 515 Views
The greenhouse effect without with the global average temperature would be in the ballpark of -15C? Floffe - 24/11/2009 03:24:40 PM 562 Views
No no no my friend, do not put words in my mouth AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 03:52:29 PM 610 Views
Re: No one seriously argues against climate change. The myth is called the greenhouse effect Camilla - 24/11/2009 06:09:20 PM 562 Views
Temperature down while CO2 increases for 11 years and counting, no can't be true.... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:41:41 PM 516 Views
Re: Temperature down while CO2 increases for 11 years and counting, no can't be true.... Camilla - 24/11/2009 03:51:46 PM 568 Views
This was already throughly rebutted in your prior post. and you are still trying it? Sheesh! *NM* everynametaken - 25/11/2009 05:12:19 PM 276 Views
Temp is down since 1998.....this is a fact.....sorry. trzaska2000 - 25/11/2009 05:19:07 PM 486 Views
Again, this was ALREADY ADDRESSED in your prior post. Saying it over and over won't make it true. *NM* everynametaken - 28/11/2009 04:18:30 AM 222 Views
Funny how when they get caught cooking the numbers you libbers just make jokes. dart_board - 26/11/2009 06:37:26 PM 493 Views
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