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Re: Doubt it. Frangible ammunition shatters to spread out. Hollow point expands to make 1 big hole Brian Send a noteboard - 27/11/2009 08:26:24 PM
Because that's all most police officers carry. I'm not defending them, by any means, I'm just saying that the officers didn't really have much of a choice as to which ammo they used. For the rest...the police should have had tranq guns themselves to be brought out for these types of emergencies. There's no excuse for the animal to be shot with handguns when somewhere someone should have had a tranq gun.

How about the excuse that all they have NOW is a gun, and even 30 seconds needed to run down a tranq gun might result in greater injury to a HUMAN BEING. Human life takes precedence over any sort of injury to the bear. On the subject of ammunition, the original poster is a moron. Frangible ammunition is a LESS lethal type! She has no clue what she is talking about, and is probably confusing it with artillery or something. Hollow points get more penetration, fragmentation rounds don't penetrate as deeply, and if an officer was using fragmentation rounds against a larger-than-human predator with a thick furry coat, it was because he had NOTHING else. If you are concerned about the bear's welfare, you PREFER they use fragmentation rounds to solid or hollow-point rounds that would penetrate more deeply and do more damage.

I'm fairly certain she got something wrong from the original article.

I'm quite fine with that argument. I agree with it in all honesty. The police officer's choice was the life of a person or an animal, and the person's life is always going to win out. I still am of the opinion though that there was a mistake made here. How is it police can respond to something like this faster than a zoo's own keepers can with a tranquilizer gun? Unless the police were already inside the zoo, when the call was made, then the zoo should have been there way faster than the police.
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Idiots at Zoos make me feel bad for the animals. - 27/11/2009 06:36:01 PM 862 Views
By fragmentation bullets do you mean hollow points? - 27/11/2009 06:47:59 PM 799 Views
Doubt it. Frangible ammunition shatters to spread out. Hollow point expands to make 1 big hole - 27/11/2009 07:56:46 PM 613 Views
Re: Doubt it. Frangible ammunition shatters to spread out. Hollow point expands to make 1 big hole - 27/11/2009 08:26:24 PM 718 Views
i'm not sure, fragmentation bullets is the term the article used. - 27/11/2009 09:56:50 PM 629 Views
What are you saying? - 27/11/2009 07:16:52 PM 717 Views
I think it's pretty obvious - 27/11/2009 08:06:48 PM 730 Views
well, I am sorry that makes her feel bad - 27/11/2009 08:15:41 PM 679 Views
of course - 27/11/2009 10:40:30 PM 643 Views
I do not know about other zoos - 27/11/2009 09:48:12 PM 576 Views
I disagree - 27/11/2009 10:48:40 PM 692 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 28/11/2009 12:19:55 AM 753 Views
out of curiousity - 28/11/2009 02:22:32 AM 622 Views
Re: out of curiousity - 28/11/2009 11:59:48 AM 647 Views
Hm. - 28/11/2009 04:44:08 PM 707 Views
"As long as they act reasonably." - 28/11/2009 04:52:30 PM 616 Views
So a situation that is "fun" for a bear but leaves a person dead is better than both surviving? - 27/11/2009 07:48:00 PM 665 Views
"fun" indeed. - 27/11/2009 09:51:14 PM 634 Views
It would have been a real shame if the policeman had "missed" once. *NM* - 28/11/2009 04:20:28 AM 260 Views
oh yes, a real horrible shame *NM* - 28/11/2009 06:20:42 AM 276 Views
me too. - 28/11/2009 05:29:42 PM 632 Views

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