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Bah, I only have your word for that being how your spell your name snoopcester Send a noteboard - 01/02/2010 01:08:24 PM
RT probably has a point that a lot of people are objecting because they don't like the results, and I seriously doubt many of them had heard of the PPP before and were objecting for the reason I was. The results, credible or not, are probably in the right zone. I would say, as you mentioned, that people will tend to watch the channel they trust the most.


I just found it confusing that he was replying here about replies on a different website (so far as I can tell) - without saying that it refers to the replies actual article it gives an implication that it is about replies here. Which don't seem to be doing what he objects to.

My point, just to clarify, is that even if the results are dead on, doesn't mean they should be treated as valid, anymore than if I predicted two inches of rain next Tuesday in London and that's exactly what it turned out to be. A polling group that uses flawed methodology, especially deliberately flawed methodology as seems indicated for the PPP in some prior recent polls, shouldn't be treated as reliable even if they pick the lotto numbers right two nights in a row. I haven't really been watching this thread much, so I don't know if RT's assessment is correct about people's objections, but that is the origin of my objections.


I wasn't raising an objection to your point, I just mentioned you as you were one of the very, very few people here to raise an objection to the polling group. The only other objection I can see here is suggesting that due to an increasing number of people just having mobiles, telephone polling is now potentially missing some groups out.
Your closing sentence is why it is probably a good idea to be clear if you are commenting on replies that are on a different site.
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Fox is most trusted name in news trzaska2000 - 27/01/2010 12:11:15 AM 661 Views
Good thing reality is chosen through consensus. *NM* Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 12:17:17 AM 118 Views
umm it is survey on trust random thoughts - 27/01/2010 12:47:04 AM 267 Views
Of course it's an accurate poll. But my point is that trust has nothing to do with accuracy. *NM* Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 01:14:59 AM 116 Views
do you have any real evidience that Fox is less acurate? random thoughts - 27/01/2010 01:28:22 AM 247 Views
Does the poll suggest otherwise? Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 02:32:14 AM 233 Views
well... PhotoJim - 27/01/2010 12:37:40 AM 238 Views
Good for Fox. Legolas - 27/01/2010 12:38:39 AM 275 Views
Not really that surprising random thoughts - 27/01/2010 01:00:52 AM 294 Views
Well, I did say it was remarkable particularly for foreigners. Legolas - 27/01/2010 01:58:43 AM 293 Views
I don't think their bias is their problem random thoughts - 27/01/2010 02:57:33 AM 347 Views
I've always liked ABC's World News Tonight. Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 03:44:59 AM 229 Views
Jim Lehrer, definetly *NM* Isaac - 27/01/2010 04:11:17 AM 122 Views
That would be my most trusted TV news source. Joel - 27/01/2010 07:22:51 AM 226 Views
I don't watch much PBS news random thoughts - 27/01/2010 02:04:12 PM 233 Views
Yes, but The NewsHour has been criticized for being too conservative. *NM* Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 07:01:32 PM 216 Views
well there are people who think Nancy Pelosi is to conserative *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:13:56 PM 158 Views
Re: Not really that surprising MightyYT - 27/01/2010 06:18:34 PM 228 Views
That is why I chose what I am going to watch based on the show and not the network random thoughts - 27/01/2010 06:56:24 PM 226 Views
I am sad for this country after hearing this. *NM* Aisha - 27/01/2010 01:45:18 AM 212 Views
Re: Fox is most trusted name in news Dominic - 27/01/2010 02:51:04 AM 341 Views
Precisely. *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 11:26:15 AM 119 Views
A generation ago, the only news channel on TV was CNN. MightyYT - 27/01/2010 06:20:07 PM 237 Views
Hmmm....now here's the question: Great Lord of Chaos - 27/01/2010 03:10:02 AM 242 Views
PPP has a poor record Isaac - 27/01/2010 05:01:57 AM 240 Views
And CNN is SECOND?!!! What a badly broken poll.... Joel - 27/01/2010 07:16:09 AM 222 Views
It would be interesting to see how that breaks down by party snoopcester - 27/01/2010 12:09:51 PM 239 Views
the article does break it down by party random thoughts - 27/01/2010 02:06:50 PM 239 Views
Only for FOX, which makes trying to analyse it impossible snoopcester - 27/01/2010 02:51:46 PM 234 Views
here is a link to the full results random thoughts - 27/01/2010 03:02:50 PM 327 Views
So the parties are pretty much going each way Floffe - 27/01/2010 04:19:59 PM 238 Views
Re: So the parties are pretty much going each way snoopcester - 27/01/2010 04:36:08 PM 226 Views
I guess it makes sense random thoughts - 27/01/2010 11:33:25 PM 225 Views
It does snoopcester - 28/01/2010 12:09:14 PM 215 Views
They also treat them like a single group which I find ironic random thoughts - 30/01/2010 05:40:28 PM 233 Views
I personally think both sides are wrong random thoughts - 27/01/2010 04:40:36 PM 217 Views
Besides the fact who wins or loses, it's a very sad state of affairs for democracy... Artsapat - 27/01/2010 01:15:34 PM 225 Views
Skepticism is usually a good sign in a democracy Isaac - 27/01/2010 02:18:58 PM 281 Views
Re: Skepticism is usually a good sign in a democracy callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:42:55 AM 248 Views
Well, at least Fox is better than the BBC AgentOrange - 27/01/2010 01:43:32 PM 232 Views
I'm fairly certain you don't really mean that... Legolas - 27/01/2010 05:33:47 PM 248 Views
One does wonder. jh - 27/01/2010 05:52:30 PM 252 Views
Re: One does wonder. Aisha - 28/01/2010 04:28:47 AM 223 Views
Re: One does wonder. snoopcester - 28/01/2010 12:12:48 PM 222 Views
haha you got me. Though I do mean it. AgentOrange - 30/01/2010 12:36:03 AM 235 Views
Well, that's me unsurprised. nossy - 27/01/2010 02:23:16 PM 252 Views
Re: Well, that's me unsurprised. Macharius - 27/01/2010 02:31:57 PM 228 Views
Re: Well, that's me unsurprised. snoopcester - 27/01/2010 02:53:04 PM 232 Views
I'm still friends with the crotchety old secretary who used to work with me. nossy - 27/01/2010 03:24:45 PM 235 Views
It was the most watched cable channel last week random thoughts - 27/01/2010 03:08:36 PM 223 Views
You can't offend me by saying that. nossy - 27/01/2010 03:23:26 PM 212 Views
I know random thoughts - 27/01/2010 04:23:18 PM 244 Views
I almost said something earlier. nossy - 27/01/2010 06:34:18 PM 203 Views
Was the poll done in a trailerpark where everyone was their own uncle? Sophy - 27/01/2010 06:59:01 PM 260 Views
I think the same thing everytime I see European TV random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:13:13 PM 213 Views
Re: Was the poll done in a trailerpark where everyone was their own uncle? callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:49:10 AM 203 Views
That's like saying so-and-so won a Grammy. Panorphaeon - 27/01/2010 07:39:54 PM 197 Views
That's like going a high security prison for a visit callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:38:45 AM 211 Views
telephone polls are no longer an accurate representation of popular opinion ranagrande - 28/01/2010 04:12:52 AM 193 Views
I verbally abuse people who call to poll me. I'm going to keep doing it. callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 04:21:20 AM 294 Views
funny how people suddenly dismiss polls when they say something they don't like random thoughts - 28/01/2010 05:57:10 AM 222 Views
Well, personally I never said anything about the poll being invalid. Ghavrel - 28/01/2010 06:57:43 AM 196 Views
Funnily, the first person who did that is Issac who has seemed a right wing type to me. snoopcester - 28/01/2010 12:19:05 PM 223 Views
I there is nothing wrong with questioning what a poll tells us random thoughts - 28/01/2010 02:02:29 PM 224 Views
Those where the only type of replies I saw though snoopcester - 28/01/2010 02:24:55 PM 204 Views
I made it a comment to main thread for a reason random thoughts - 28/01/2010 04:22:14 PM 210 Views
Isaac, not Issac Isaac - 30/01/2010 07:10:20 AM 221 Views
Bah, I only have your word for that being how your spell your name snoopcester - 01/02/2010 01:08:24 PM 324 Views
It's pretty much the only Anglic spelling of it Isaac - 01/02/2010 02:15:45 PM 260 Views
I would have complained about the telephony regardless of the results ranagrande - 28/01/2010 01:55:03 PM 198 Views
I've pretty much stopped watching news on TV BlackAdder - 29/01/2010 04:18:44 PM 212 Views
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