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That's still a bad benchmark Isaac Send a noteboard - 02/02/2010 10:00:23 AM
I'd be curious to see the statistics regarding attacks on US troops vs. attacks on civilians. I suspect civilians would be higher, but not by much.


Depends on whose figures you go with, there's no legitimate way to really determine, but the coalition keeps a count of everyone who died directly from an attack. Loosely speaking, around a hundred thousand, almost all from terrorist attacks. That's why most of us don't mind calling all the attackers there terrorists, when your kill ration is about 30 of your own citizens for every 'foriegn opressor' you're pretty far beyond claiming legitimate collateral damage.

Attacks on US troops by terrorists are still acts of terrorism. I agree that targteing an occuying force, even in a fashion which may result in occassional civilian deaths, falls under 'freedom fighter' but the fact that most attacks, especially recently, have been against their own citizens or police with no US troops nearby puts the lie to that. You also have to have some moral justification when claiming freedom fighters. Saddam Hussein and his regime were not one lick better than the Nazis, US occupation has been anything but draconian. Carry the freedom fighter analogy to far and people can justify attack US troops in Haiti. The occupation force spent most of it's time doing patrols and assisting locals. As justifications for violent resistance go, 'let's go blow up a bunch of our guys in the hope we might kill a few of the half-dozen heavily armored soldiers who are delivering food, water, medicine and equipment to our own people' is somewhere down there with cutting peoples tongues out to keep them from using foul language. The reason is highly questionable to begin with and certainly doens't justify the means, so I would say it's perfectly acceptable to justify all attacks in Iraq as terrorist, and certainly any where civilians were present.
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All Terrorists are Muslims… except the 94% that aren’t. - 01/02/2010 10:42:12 PM 2007 Views
I find that unsurprising. - 01/02/2010 11:31:43 PM 659 Views
Lot of BS in there - 01/02/2010 11:33:08 PM 776 Views
I'm afraid I have to agree with this. - 01/02/2010 11:46:02 PM 711 Views
Well, no. Robbery accounts for a very small percentage of those attacks. Look at the chart. - 01/02/2010 11:50:39 PM 676 Views
I found the so-called Islamophobic reply... allow me to quote it in its entirety. - 01/02/2010 11:52:37 PM 699 Views
It's a valid complaint. *NM* - 02/02/2010 01:49:08 AM 271 Views
Whose complaint is valid? - 02/02/2010 01:55:58 AM 663 Views
Yours. *NM* - 02/02/2010 02:15:01 AM 290 Views
I did note the rampant bias. - 01/02/2010 11:48:55 PM 792 Views
What about attacks on Iraqi police volunteers? - 01/02/2010 11:53:58 PM 683 Views
it only included attacks on American soil *NM* - 02/02/2010 02:03:16 PM 302 Views
Most of the Iraq violence isn't against the foreign occupier... - 01/02/2010 11:54:44 PM 718 Views
Ahem... /\ /\ /\ - 01/02/2010 11:56:34 PM 729 Views
Dude, 46 seconds. I was typing it while you posted. *NM* - 02/02/2010 12:05:44 AM 277 Views
True, but I was referring to attacks on US soldiers. - 02/02/2010 01:47:55 AM 676 Views
That's still a bad benchmark - 02/02/2010 10:00:23 AM 787 Views
You would be very wrong - 02/02/2010 02:11:08 PM 734 Views
Um, since when is all Mid-East terrorism against foreign occupiers? - 02/02/2010 12:33:13 AM 853 Views
I would agree with this. - 02/02/2010 02:33:47 AM 770 Views
It was bound to happen sooner or later. - 02/02/2010 04:10:13 AM 815 Views
This is the only problem I have with "definitions" - 02/02/2010 04:51:00 AM 690 Views
You're conflating two types of fighters who shouldn't be, I believe. - 03/02/2010 06:16:21 AM 682 Views
I think you missed the point. - 05/02/2010 05:15:40 AM 679 Views
One of us did. - 05/02/2010 08:26:07 AM 861 Views
I'm not talking ETHICALLY or MORALLY - 14/02/2010 06:41:32 PM 686 Views
I was, or at least speaking legally. - 15/02/2010 06:54:50 AM 733 Views
Churchill's justification of bombings cited civilians as the targets, IIRC - 03/02/2010 12:46:16 AM 916 Views
I did say, "deliberately, " and for a reason. - 03/02/2010 04:23:44 AM 832 Views
Re: I did say, "deliberately, " and for a reason. - 05/02/2010 02:22:10 AM 1020 Views
Re: I did say, "deliberately, " and for a reason. - 15/02/2010 09:46:48 AM 855 Views
Lame. - 01/02/2010 11:55:50 PM 628 Views
Demographics are the key, methinks. - 02/02/2010 12:20:46 AM 788 Views
WTF? Are these people serious? - 02/02/2010 02:19:05 AM 697 Views
Ah, good. I've driven you out of lurking. Now recommend me operas. *NM* - 02/02/2010 02:41:30 AM 282 Views
Huh? *NM* - 02/02/2010 02:03:24 PM 292 Views
I made a survey on musicals and operas on the board! - 02/02/2010 05:15:45 PM 637 Views
I agree with tom - 02/02/2010 02:54:53 AM 699 Views
So what? - 02/02/2010 02:23:42 AM 733 Views
Waco were terrorist? Do they just make this crap up? *NM* - 02/02/2010 02:00:40 PM 476 Views
leftist dhimmi allies... rofl - 04/02/2010 04:56:48 AM 685 Views

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