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Re: if they can make it work, then this is good everynametaken Send a noteboard - 24/02/2010 05:15:58 PM
from an ethical standpoint, it is definitetly good, but if the practical applications create a problem then I could understand why they would stop any co-ed programs they set up.

I do wonder why they didn't just move to only-women subs. I know that would take more time to train submariners, but it would probably mean less submarine overhaul.

I have to admit, I mentally snarled a bit at the knowledge that women still are not allowed in "combat" positions. I did not know that and I do not like it in the slightest.


As far as combat goes, I am not sure a lot of women could point a rifle at another person's head, pull the trigger, and then watch said person's head explode. Granted, some women have definitely been in combat in a sense by "accident" due to be being in convoys and so on, but I imagine that being set up in an ambush and watching your enemy walk into sight and the cutting them down is somewhat different psychologically. You can read all about PTSD and how it is affecting many of the men who are coming back from war. Is this what we want as a nation to subject our women soldiers too? I guess that is for everyone to decide for his or herself but I am not sure my answer is yes.

There are also other concerns that don't exist on a sub that do in an infantry setting. Issues of the strength needed to carry wounded, move heavy mechanical items, and the strength and endurance needed to carry heavy weight for long distances. There is also the issue of how other armies would be willing to work with female soldiers. Do you really think groups like the Iraqi National Army or the Afghan National Army will be willing to take orders from female soldiers? I highly doubt it. I don't see those problems in a setting like a sub but they are real issues in terms of combat infantry.
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Navy will soon let women serve on subs - 24/02/2010 05:22:01 AM 388 Views
It worked for Lauren Holly in "Down Periscope". - 24/02/2010 05:51:31 AM 236 Views
If the navy wants to it then it is their call - 24/02/2010 05:54:27 AM 181 Views
i think i made the joke on wotmania.... - 24/02/2010 06:19:40 AM 186 Views
I was waiting for a good "seamen" joke.. *NM* - 24/02/2010 09:00:24 PM 52 Views
that's ...what she said? *NM* - 24/02/2010 11:10:23 PM 59 Views
It isn't really an issue of women serving on subs, - 24/02/2010 07:47:57 AM 187 Views
if they can make it work, then this is good - 24/02/2010 01:13:47 PM 209 Views
If they want to try it and see if it works, sure - 24/02/2010 02:13:03 PM 186 Views
no, I know experience wise it's not practical - 24/02/2010 09:09:24 PM 170 Views
Re: no, I know experience wise it's not practical - 24/02/2010 09:53:47 PM 161 Views
Sweden does not have separate crews - 24/02/2010 10:18:43 PM 183 Views
Wait a minute... - 24/02/2010 10:35:41 PM 175 Views
They call it hot racking - 25/02/2010 05:00:21 AM 168 Views
Are they allowed to change the sheets at least? *NM* - 25/02/2010 08:20:46 AM 53 Views
Yes - 25/02/2010 03:32:04 PM 162 Views
I wish they'ld let girls in combat roles too. - 24/02/2010 02:35:47 PM 176 Views
I'm totally not suited for combat. - 24/02/2010 09:10:24 PM 164 Views
Re: if they can make it work, then this is good - 24/02/2010 05:15:58 PM 175 Views
wanting to shield women is still sexism - 24/02/2010 09:13:22 PM 168 Views
I did not know that either - 24/02/2010 09:17:20 PM 171 Views
probably - 24/02/2010 09:25:39 PM 167 Views
The rule isn't just to protect the women - 25/02/2010 05:06:12 AM 181 Views
Re: I did not know that either - 25/02/2010 12:11:27 AM 169 Views
coldly speaking, i'd probably shoot the enemy women first - 25/02/2010 05:08:58 AM 183 Views
It makes sense to me that women aren't allowed in combat - 25/02/2010 10:07:04 AM 182 Views

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