And of course that headline was to get your attention.
I don't believe all Muslims are "terrorists", that they are all evil, or that they all want to kill our babies.
I'm fairly convinced that the majority simply want to live their life in peace as they choose, as do most of us.
this is true
But, issues like this boggle the mind, assuming all reported is accurate and true of course.
This is national law by all apearances, presumably accepted by the majority, though I admit I don't know how things work in Pakistan in this regard. Does anybody have good info on how the Pakistan Penal Code is written/enforced/etc?
The pakistani penal code and constitution are a joke. justice in Pakistan is only for those that know the right people in all the right places. It is for the people with political connections and money. justice is not for the poor, it is not for the minorities (this includes religious minorities and genders, it is for the elite, and sometimes for people that can get enough media attention to have the courts change their verdicts. It has nothing to do with Islam, in fact they use and manipulate the religion to keep people in check. You have to remember that the literacy rate is not that high in Pakistan and standing up to the "government" is not always good for your health.
To give you an example of why i think the constitution is a complete joke lets take into consideration the current president, Asif Zardari. The widower of the former prime minister Benazir Bhutto who was killed a couple years ago. Her husband was known as Mr. 10 % while she was in office because any business deal that took place in pakistan, he would take a 10% commission (bribe) from it. this included any foreign aid that was ever sent to pakistan. this man does not even have a bachelors degree and apparently there was a law int he constitution that someone without a bachelors degreee cant become president, so after his wife died, he had the sympathy of the people and he had that law changed in a jiffy to become president. We now call him Mr 100%. so thats how the legal system in Pakistan works.
But however that works, it seems that the public, if not explicitly then via duplicity approves of such law. I would think that if the majority of the public didn't approve, there would be protests, movements, etc calling for the repeal of such law. Or is that completely impossible in a society like that of Pakistan? And if that's the case, I can only shudder.
When there are protests in pakistan the police have no rules that they are forced to follow, and they beat people int he street and take them to jail and beat them there too, people in Pakistan do protest things, but it never really gets them anywhere.
Of course, here in America one can find instances of gross miscarriage of justice, perhaps comparable to this situation. But one can also find the emergence of strong opposition, often leading to repeal/change of law and circumstance.
since we are on the topic, how about we march to D.C. and have them change the laws for repeat sex offender so girls like Chelsea King dont have to die.
I guess without having more understanding of how such things work in Pakistan, if at all, it will remain a head-scratcher to me. Who would choose to live life under such a draconian system as this? The mingling of religion with politics and family, leading to some of these extreme circumstances, is both fascinating and disturbing to me.
almost everyone I knwo in Pakistan would love to move to America or London, or Pakistan and get away from that country. But once again, religion has nothing to do with what goes on in Pakistan, it is all political.
I don't believe all Muslims are "terrorists", that they are all evil, or that they all want to kill our babies.
I'm fairly convinced that the majority simply want to live their life in peace as they choose, as do most of us.
this is true
But, issues like this boggle the mind, assuming all reported is accurate and true of course.
This is national law by all apearances, presumably accepted by the majority, though I admit I don't know how things work in Pakistan in this regard. Does anybody have good info on how the Pakistan Penal Code is written/enforced/etc?
The pakistani penal code and constitution are a joke. justice in Pakistan is only for those that know the right people in all the right places. It is for the people with political connections and money. justice is not for the poor, it is not for the minorities (this includes religious minorities and genders, it is for the elite, and sometimes for people that can get enough media attention to have the courts change their verdicts. It has nothing to do with Islam, in fact they use and manipulate the religion to keep people in check. You have to remember that the literacy rate is not that high in Pakistan and standing up to the "government" is not always good for your health.
To give you an example of why i think the constitution is a complete joke lets take into consideration the current president, Asif Zardari. The widower of the former prime minister Benazir Bhutto who was killed a couple years ago. Her husband was known as Mr. 10 % while she was in office because any business deal that took place in pakistan, he would take a 10% commission (bribe) from it. this included any foreign aid that was ever sent to pakistan. this man does not even have a bachelors degree and apparently there was a law int he constitution that someone without a bachelors degreee cant become president, so after his wife died, he had the sympathy of the people and he had that law changed in a jiffy to become president. We now call him Mr 100%. so thats how the legal system in Pakistan works.
But however that works, it seems that the public, if not explicitly then via duplicity approves of such law. I would think that if the majority of the public didn't approve, there would be protests, movements, etc calling for the repeal of such law. Or is that completely impossible in a society like that of Pakistan? And if that's the case, I can only shudder.
When there are protests in pakistan the police have no rules that they are forced to follow, and they beat people int he street and take them to jail and beat them there too, people in Pakistan do protest things, but it never really gets them anywhere.
Of course, here in America one can find instances of gross miscarriage of justice, perhaps comparable to this situation. But one can also find the emergence of strong opposition, often leading to repeal/change of law and circumstance.
since we are on the topic, how about we march to D.C. and have them change the laws for repeat sex offender so girls like Chelsea King dont have to die.
I guess without having more understanding of how such things work in Pakistan, if at all, it will remain a head-scratcher to me. Who would choose to live life under such a draconian system as this? The mingling of religion with politics and family, leading to some of these extreme circumstances, is both fascinating and disturbing to me.
almost everyone I knwo in Pakistan would love to move to America or London, or Pakistan and get away from that country. But once again, religion has nothing to do with what goes on in Pakistan, it is all political.
And according to that law, i would be in prison because i touch the Quran without Wudu alot of times. i dont think there is anyhting wrong with touching the Quran as long as your hands arent pretty much covered in shit all the time.
Even if your hands are covered in shit, if you want to read a passage, you should be able to without getting 25 years in prison. It's your Quran and they're your hands and it's your desire to read it. So go for it!
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Christian couple gets 25 years in prison for allegedly touching Qur'an with "dirty hands"
- 04/03/2010 03:52:58 PM
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Of course, it's the religion of peace.
- 04/03/2010 04:19:26 PM
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here let me sum it up for you
- 04/03/2010 04:41:24 PM
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Sure but...
- 04/03/2010 04:52:37 PM
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do you believe any amount of prison time is justiifed for insulting the Quran?
- 04/03/2010 04:55:08 PM
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Pretty sure life sentences for touching the Koran "foment interfaith hatred" the most.
- 04/03/2010 06:37:56 PM
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