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I think it was that it just seems too out of place Isaac Send a noteboard - 14/03/2010 04:14:55 PM
I think it would be more accurate as a comparison to say "Everyone's a sinner, so your account that no one was murdered in your history books seems implausible"

Did you read the article I linked to or are you just assuming I was implying outright distortion of historical facts in children's textbooks is A-Okay?


that just because a given goal (in this case perfect objectivity in history books) is impossible to attain completely, it doesn't mean that one should give up on the goal entirely, or refuse to even make the attempt.


I'm rather unclear on why his comment is felt necessary though, since saying history should strive to be accurate is like saying science should strive to figure things out or clergy should seek to preach their faith. So essentially me say it's oxymoronic and him replying that we should strive for impartiality is sort of like my saying 'science doesn't know it all' and him saying 'that doesn't mean we should stop trying' or my saying 'no man can hope to know the mind of God' and him saying 'that doesn't mean we should all become atheists'. It just seems so out of place unless he assumed I was saying propaganda and distortion in history was fine which is why I queried and asked about the link, which happens to be a long rant by a centrist democrat about people flavoring kid's history books for political reasons. Mine is a cynical but true comment on history and on the NYT, which certainly knows about this and has chosen to highlight Texas when a lot of other states are doing the same thing under what I can only assume is the intentional equivalent of saying "The KKK is against gun control" an essentially transparent comment.

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Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives - 13/03/2010 12:02:15 AM 1198 Views
"Impartial Historical Account" is an oxymoron - 13/03/2010 12:21:20 AM 515 Views
Exactly, no such thing as "Impartial" history - 13/03/2010 12:54:49 AM 406 Views
So is "a sinless life," but that doesn't justify murder. *NM* - 14/03/2010 12:22:16 AM 174 Views
Strange choice of analogies... - 14/03/2010 12:17:03 PM 413 Views
I could be wrong, but I think his point was simply... - 14/03/2010 03:53:23 PM 498 Views
I think it was that it just seems too out of place - 14/03/2010 04:14:55 PM 537 Views
I dunno, you didn't elaborate much on your oxymoron statement. - 14/03/2010 04:29:04 PM 528 Views
It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating - 14/03/2010 05:20:33 PM 579 Views
Re: It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating - 14/03/2010 05:51:58 PM 595 Views
Re: It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating - 14/03/2010 06:31:45 PM 543 Views
I would object to the idea that objectivity was ever the goal - 15/03/2010 05:46:08 PM 501 Views
Heil! - 13/03/2010 12:22:35 AM 558 Views
It's about time. - 13/03/2010 01:17:25 AM 541 Views
Don't forget interned German-Americans in BOTH world wars. *NM* - 13/03/2010 02:47:25 AM 296 Views
Some of it can make sense - 13/03/2010 01:28:53 AM 601 Views
effing retarded *NM* - 13/03/2010 01:38:10 AM 191 Views
Re: Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives - 13/03/2010 03:10:22 AM 527 Views
Many of those subjects are relevant school topics. *shrugs* *NM* - 13/03/2010 04:43:41 AM 257 Views
A fascinating thing, culture wars. - 14/03/2010 04:16:35 PM 574 Views
When does revisionist history descend to the level of mere hypocrisy? I weep for my country. - 15/03/2010 04:16:25 AM 661 Views
calling Zavala a city is a bit of a stretch don't you think? - 15/03/2010 05:39:03 PM 480 Views
Seguin's a city, or at least town; Zavala is a county. - 15/03/2010 09:00:54 PM 438 Views
Pfft, Seguin is a dump. - 15/03/2010 09:11:09 PM 451 Views
Not the point! - 15/03/2010 09:30:19 PM 414 Views
Zavalla is a town as well and city is a bit of stretch for Seguin - 15/03/2010 10:23:41 PM 395 Views
Fair enough, just trying to make clear I was speaking about municipality and county, respectively. - 29/03/2010 03:49:30 PM 421 Views
See the problem is the argument is total BS - 29/03/2010 05:27:53 PM 455 Views
Dunno if I'd go that far. - 29/03/2010 08:50:40 PM 552 Views
I am sure you wouldn't - 31/03/2010 04:19:09 PM 478 Views
Based on this article it is worryingly political - 15/03/2010 11:46:53 AM 408 Views
Do you have any examples of where they are not teaching the truth? - 15/03/2010 05:42:27 PM 430 Views
I think it is what they are leaving out that is worrisome. - 15/03/2010 06:58:38 PM 445 Views
I don't see anything sayting they are leaving that out - 15/03/2010 08:26:50 PM 440 Views
We were talking about this last night - 15/03/2010 11:38:02 PM 613 Views
Also - 15/03/2010 11:41:45 PM 372 Views
Still not sure I see a problem - 16/03/2010 04:58:50 PM 385 Views
This thread is indeed making me wonder how textbooks are used in the US... - 16/03/2010 05:05:13 PM 372 Views
for political posturing of course - 16/03/2010 05:26:13 PM 449 Views

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