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I don't think it's racist at all MalkierKnight Send a noteboard - 22/03/2010 07:15:55 PM
Though I might say it's racially insensitive. "Blacker" might be vernacular in Dutch, I have no idea, but there's nothing hateful about calling music that is predominantly black, black music. It's only negative if you think it is. And if anything, the Dutch commercial is glorifying that type of music. Black people take credit for creating jazz, hip hop, r and b, so no one should object to calling it black music. If I made a table, I certainly wouldn't object to people calling it Alex's table.

Now, if everyone got together and called my table inferior to the others and made fun of my table, then we might have an issue.

But I don't think that's what's going on at all in the Dutch commercial.

Anyone who calls it racist is just being overly sensitive.

At worst, I'd say the commercial is a little crude (calling music black or white instead of soulful/contemporary or classic), but Dutch people probably have a crude exposure to diversity.
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Is it racist?: Commercial for Jazz/Soul radio - 22/03/2010 01:47:45 PM 2785 Views
I'd say that's pretty racist. - 22/03/2010 01:53:59 PM 752 Views
I don't think it's racist at all - 22/03/2010 07:15:55 PM 793 Views
Uh. - 22/03/2010 09:36:35 PM 885 Views
Re: Uh. - 29/03/2010 07:03:14 PM 823 Views
I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim - 29/03/2010 07:20:09 PM 754 Views
Re: I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim - 29/03/2010 07:28:34 PM 849 Views
Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:46:15 PM 688 Views
Re: Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:53:56 PM 646 Views
An illustration of Larry's point... - 29/03/2010 08:14:55 PM 715 Views
This. ~points at Larry's post~ *NM* - 29/03/2010 07:42:35 PM 425 Views
Re: This. ~points at Larry's post~ - 29/03/2010 07:57:30 PM 734 Views
Um. - 29/03/2010 08:00:54 PM 884 Views
Re: Um. - 29/03/2010 08:44:31 PM 672 Views
My question for you was on that one line that Larry responded to. - 29/03/2010 08:46:26 PM 704 Views
I was thinking the same thing as Rebekah - 23/03/2010 07:15:51 AM 747 Views
I don't see it - 22/03/2010 08:19:31 PM 740 Views
+1 *NM* - 22/03/2010 08:30:01 PM 413 Views
Re: +2 *NM* - 22/03/2010 09:53:43 PM 412 Views
Re: +3 *NM* - 22/03/2010 10:00:55 PM 390 Views
i'd say the actions in the commercial are more racist than the words - 22/03/2010 10:00:02 PM 730 Views
It would not float here in the US - 22/03/2010 10:07:08 PM 743 Views
Agreed. - 23/03/2010 05:36:14 AM 897 Views
Could you please expand on one point in your reasoning? - 23/03/2010 07:20:31 AM 740 Views
It's not race specific music if it's enjoyed/performed/presented by various races. - 23/03/2010 07:32:33 AM 982 Views
MOBO - 23/03/2010 10:20:22 AM 694 Views
Nice term, if a bit clumsy - 23/03/2010 11:10:34 AM 699 Views
The trouble lies in historical neuroses cooked in our melting pot, I think. - 23/03/2010 11:29:06 AM 740 Views
I suspect so as well - 23/03/2010 12:32:00 PM 835 Views
Well, the thing is, "American" is PURELY a culture, not a race. - 23/03/2010 01:55:59 PM 952 Views
That's part of what I was thinking - 23/03/2010 07:50:19 AM 1067 Views
Only if it's racist to mention the fact that different races exist. Which seems to be the US view. - 23/03/2010 09:24:23 AM 731 Views
Agreed - 23/03/2010 10:21:59 AM 763 Views
Not at all, the problem is when people seem to say something is exclusive to a given race. - 23/03/2010 11:51:06 AM 979 Views
I agree with some of what you say, but I think you're assuming more than is warranted. - 23/03/2010 02:33:34 PM 696 Views
perhaps not as default... - 23/03/2010 03:08:19 PM 767 Views
The term encompasses listeners, performers and presenters. - 23/03/2010 04:42:55 PM 789 Views
So it's really not about skin color any more, right? - 23/03/2010 09:12:20 PM 823 Views
it's racist and unacceptable. - 23/03/2010 09:07:10 PM 861 Views

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