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I suspect so as well snoopcester Send a noteboard - 23/03/2010 12:32:00 PM
I think most people would expect "Indian" music to originate in the Indian subcontinent, not just Indian culture.


I think you are wrong - if a group of people of Indian birth recorded a style of song that is traditionally Indian using only traditionally Indian instruments and the vocals were in Hindi, would the music not still be Indian even if it were recorded in Wolverhampton in the UK rather than in India? You, based on what you have said, would argue that it isn't Indian music but in the UK it would be.

However, we're dealing here with distinctly American, not African, music, and if we start classifying American music along racial lines it sets off various alarms for a lot of people.


It might well do in America but it is a way of classifying music based on the culture it came from - black culture. I don't see that the Dutch should have to worry about over sensitive American perceptions of race;)

Not that the same issues can't arise with other music, but it remains particularly sensitive here because of the history. I think it safe to say that as long as Nation of Islam exists the issues of assimilation and integration that produced it do, too. As long as the Souths unofficial anthem is a product of the traveling minstrel shows (no lie) and a black Presidential candidate has to go from accusations of not being black enough to accusations of being TOO black, jazz radio commercials dousing hosts with paint to make them "blacker than ever" will seem racially insensitive (at best) to most Americans. Of course, the Netherlands aren't part of the US, but jazz is.


Jazz is? So jazz can be classified as American music, even if it is written and played by a Dutch guy, but it can't be described as black music even if that Dutch guy is black and the music is of black origiin?
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Is it racist?: Commercial for Jazz/Soul radio Artsapat - 22/03/2010 01:47:45 PM 2943 Views
I'd say that's pretty racist. LadyLorraine - 22/03/2010 01:53:59 PM 856 Views
I don't think it's racist at all MalkierKnight - 22/03/2010 07:15:55 PM 913 Views
Uh. Rebekah - 22/03/2010 09:36:35 PM 1002 Views
Re: Uh. MalkierKnight - 29/03/2010 07:03:14 PM 947 Views
I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim Larry - 29/03/2010 07:20:09 PM 863 Views
Re: I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim MalkierKnight - 29/03/2010 07:28:34 PM 977 Views
Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here Larry - 29/03/2010 07:46:15 PM 800 Views
Re: Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here MalkierKnight - 29/03/2010 07:53:56 PM 764 Views
An illustration of Larry's point... Legolas - 29/03/2010 08:14:55 PM 824 Views
This. ~points at Larry's post~ *NM* Rebekah - 29/03/2010 07:42:35 PM 478 Views
Re: This. ~points at Larry's post~ MalkierKnight - 29/03/2010 07:57:30 PM 848 Views
Um. Rebekah - 29/03/2010 08:00:54 PM 997 Views
Re: Um. MalkierKnight - 29/03/2010 08:44:31 PM 798 Views
My question for you was on that one line that Larry responded to. Rebekah - 29/03/2010 08:46:26 PM 834 Views
She agrees with you about it not being racist - she had issues with your "crude" comment. Legolas - 29/03/2010 08:59:44 PM 822 Views
I was thinking the same thing as Rebekah Artsapat - 23/03/2010 07:15:51 AM 858 Views
I don't see it ironclad - 22/03/2010 08:19:31 PM 865 Views
+1 *NM* Floffe - 22/03/2010 08:30:01 PM 460 Views
Re: +2 *NM* Wibble - 22/03/2010 09:53:43 PM 463 Views
Re: +3 *NM* Rebekah - 22/03/2010 10:00:55 PM 441 Views
i'd say the actions in the commercial are more racist than the words LadyLorraine - 22/03/2010 10:00:02 PM 829 Views
It would not float here in the US Larry - 22/03/2010 10:07:08 PM 852 Views
Agreed. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:36:14 AM 1010 Views
Could you please expand on one point in your reasoning? Floffe - 23/03/2010 07:20:31 AM 868 Views
It's not race specific music if it's enjoyed/performed/presented by various races. Joel - 23/03/2010 07:32:33 AM 1100 Views
MOBO snoopcester - 23/03/2010 10:20:22 AM 800 Views
Nice term, if a bit clumsy Floffe - 23/03/2010 11:10:34 AM 822 Views
The trouble lies in historical neuroses cooked in our melting pot, I think. Joel - 23/03/2010 11:29:06 AM 850 Views
I suspect so as well snoopcester - 23/03/2010 12:32:00 PM 957 Views
Well, the thing is, "American" is PURELY a culture, not a race. Joel - 23/03/2010 01:55:59 PM 1086 Views
That's part of what I was thinking Artsapat - 23/03/2010 07:50:19 AM 1194 Views
Only if it's racist to mention the fact that different races exist. Which seems to be the US view. Tim - 23/03/2010 09:24:23 AM 840 Views
Agreed snoopcester - 23/03/2010 10:21:59 AM 875 Views
Some people are like that, yes, but at least it isn't the "accepted" media position. Yet. *NM* Tim - 23/03/2010 11:01:47 AM 437 Views
Not at all, the problem is when people seem to say something is exclusive to a given race. Joel - 23/03/2010 11:51:06 AM 1105 Views
I agree with some of what you say, but I think you're assuming more than is warranted. Tim - 23/03/2010 02:33:34 PM 811 Views
perhaps not as default... LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:08:19 PM 891 Views
The term encompasses listeners, performers and presenters. Joel - 23/03/2010 04:42:55 PM 904 Views
So it's really not about skin color any more, right? Aeryn - 23/03/2010 09:12:20 PM 930 Views
it's racist and unacceptable. Aeryn - 23/03/2010 09:07:10 PM 967 Views
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