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The term encompasses listeners, performers and presenters. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/03/2010 04:42:55 PM
Namely, that calling something "black music" means that only black people (are supposed to) enjoy listening to it. Can't it mean that a) it originated among black people, and/or b) most artists within the genre are black, without implying c) it appeals exclusively (or even just mostly) to black listeners?

And I think it's unduly restrictive in each case. Most (but far from all) jazz musicians are black and most (but far from all) physicists are white; that doesn't make jazz "black" music any more than it makes physics "white" science. Only in the sense that jazz originated in Southern black culture and entered a renaissance in Northern black culture after the turn of the 20th century is the term valid, but it's moved far beyond that now, a fact we should recognize and celebrate. The days when it was born and matured were days when it WAS nearly exclusively black music because its country or origin was officially segregated in the South and unofficially in the North. America, and jazz, have grown beyond that, to the credit of both. Ignoring the political reality, the musical reality is that jazz is both too widely accessible and too influential in other musical genres to be so narrowly defined.
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Is it racist?: Commercial for Jazz/Soul radio - 22/03/2010 01:47:45 PM 2943 Views
I'd say that's pretty racist. - 22/03/2010 01:53:59 PM 857 Views
I don't think it's racist at all - 22/03/2010 07:15:55 PM 914 Views
Uh. - 22/03/2010 09:36:35 PM 1003 Views
Re: Uh. - 29/03/2010 07:03:14 PM 950 Views
I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim - 29/03/2010 07:20:09 PM 864 Views
Re: I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim - 29/03/2010 07:28:34 PM 978 Views
Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:46:15 PM 801 Views
Re: Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:53:56 PM 765 Views
An illustration of Larry's point... - 29/03/2010 08:14:55 PM 825 Views
This. ~points at Larry's post~ *NM* - 29/03/2010 07:42:35 PM 479 Views
Re: This. ~points at Larry's post~ - 29/03/2010 07:57:30 PM 849 Views
Um. - 29/03/2010 08:00:54 PM 998 Views
Re: Um. - 29/03/2010 08:44:31 PM 799 Views
My question for you was on that one line that Larry responded to. - 29/03/2010 08:46:26 PM 835 Views
I was thinking the same thing as Rebekah - 23/03/2010 07:15:51 AM 859 Views
I don't see it - 22/03/2010 08:19:31 PM 866 Views
+1 *NM* - 22/03/2010 08:30:01 PM 461 Views
Re: +2 *NM* - 22/03/2010 09:53:43 PM 464 Views
Re: +3 *NM* - 22/03/2010 10:00:55 PM 442 Views
i'd say the actions in the commercial are more racist than the words - 22/03/2010 10:00:02 PM 831 Views
It would not float here in the US - 22/03/2010 10:07:08 PM 853 Views
Agreed. - 23/03/2010 05:36:14 AM 1011 Views
Could you please expand on one point in your reasoning? - 23/03/2010 07:20:31 AM 869 Views
It's not race specific music if it's enjoyed/performed/presented by various races. - 23/03/2010 07:32:33 AM 1101 Views
MOBO - 23/03/2010 10:20:22 AM 801 Views
Nice term, if a bit clumsy - 23/03/2010 11:10:34 AM 823 Views
The trouble lies in historical neuroses cooked in our melting pot, I think. - 23/03/2010 11:29:06 AM 850 Views
I suspect so as well - 23/03/2010 12:32:00 PM 958 Views
Well, the thing is, "American" is PURELY a culture, not a race. - 23/03/2010 01:55:59 PM 1088 Views
That's part of what I was thinking - 23/03/2010 07:50:19 AM 1195 Views
Only if it's racist to mention the fact that different races exist. Which seems to be the US view. - 23/03/2010 09:24:23 AM 841 Views
Agreed - 23/03/2010 10:21:59 AM 876 Views
Not at all, the problem is when people seem to say something is exclusive to a given race. - 23/03/2010 11:51:06 AM 1107 Views
I agree with some of what you say, but I think you're assuming more than is warranted. - 23/03/2010 02:33:34 PM 811 Views
perhaps not as default... - 23/03/2010 03:08:19 PM 891 Views
The term encompasses listeners, performers and presenters. - 23/03/2010 04:42:55 PM 906 Views
So it's really not about skin color any more, right? - 23/03/2010 09:12:20 PM 931 Views
it's racist and unacceptable. - 23/03/2010 09:07:10 PM 968 Views

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