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I wasn't using it as that snoopcester Send a noteboard - 23/03/2010 05:19:43 PM
Using written stuff as a proof for or against how people say things doesn't usually work because "rules" are more stringent in written English than spoken.


I was using it as proof that Palatine's an before history rule isn't an actual rule in American English, which I think it worked perfectly for. I wasn't trying to rule out the possibility that some people might still say it as "An history".

Also, you are a freak for saying "An 'istory"
*MySmiley*

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Do you really need to have two different pronunciations of "the"? Lordling - 23/03/2010 02:06:02 PM 1424 Views
Need? No. Rebekah - 23/03/2010 02:17:09 PM 595 Views
I've never heard of that in my life. LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 02:29:37 PM 690 Views
I pronounce it both ways Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 02:35:45 PM 688 Views
It's like "a". LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 02:45:14 PM 765 Views
Oh. I do that too. Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 02:59:20 PM 698 Views
"all intenstive purposes"...*shudder* LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 02:45:35 PM 665 Views
Yeah, that makes me shudder, too. People are retarded. *NM* LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 02:50:41 PM 358 Views
I have never actually heard anyone say "all intensive purposes". MightyYT - 23/03/2010 05:25:37 PM 653 Views
Or you could be surrounded by smarter people than I am. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 05:26:44 PM 261 Views
Really? I'd say most people say it incorrectly and most don't even know... everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:35:49 PM 667 Views
I do too damookster - 24/03/2010 04:07:56 AM 565 Views
Or irregardless. *shudders* I saw it in the dictionary but really... globug0822 - 26/03/2010 12:03:13 PM 612 Views
You should a a few words Floffe - 26/03/2010 12:42:36 PM 619 Views
What Joe said, almost. Palatine - 23/03/2010 04:51:08 PM 858 Views
Seems to me that only works if you pronounce "history" without the H. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:02:29 PM 416 Views
That's my point. I've never heard anyone say it without the "h." *NM* Palatine - 24/03/2010 04:55:35 PM 360 Views
An history Rebekah - 23/03/2010 05:07:08 PM 825 Views
(h)erb. *NM* everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:37:58 PM 345 Views
I will not use "an." Palatine - 24/03/2010 04:59:00 PM 600 Views
Never heard that one snoopcester - 23/03/2010 05:09:40 PM 635 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 23/03/2010 05:13:17 PM 769 Views
I wasn't using it as that snoopcester - 23/03/2010 05:19:43 PM 594 Views
OK. Rebekah - 23/03/2010 05:25:22 PM 661 Views
It's enough of a rule. Palatine - 24/03/2010 05:02:46 PM 639 Views
Re: Never heard that one ßelals Girl - 23/03/2010 06:14:21 PM 766 Views
I speak mid-west English and have never said an history or ever heard anyone else use it. everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:38:53 PM 718 Views
I've heard it spoken that way several times--on TV/radio by someone trying to be "serious." *NM* Palatine - 24/03/2010 05:05:48 PM 358 Views
It seems I use them both. Beqi - 23/03/2010 06:05:30 PM 605 Views
I also don't post in the correct place, it seems. Beqi - 23/03/2010 06:36:59 PM 624 Views
One is sufficient. The Shrike - 23/03/2010 02:30:53 PM 825 Views
Is it possible you do it and don't realize it? Avendesora - 23/03/2010 05:11:28 PM 556 Views
I think I do it in many cases, yeah... Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:19:13 PM 696 Views
That's what we were taught in school as well ironclad - 23/03/2010 02:35:29 PM 668 Views
That's what I thought of, too. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:42:14 PM 671 Views
Re: Do you really need to have two different pronunciations of "the"? lyringlas - 23/03/2010 02:46:41 PM 782 Views
As long as you don't say, "should of" 'cos then I must beat you. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:49:09 PM 701 Views
Re: As long as you don't say, "should of" 'cos then I must beat you. lyringlas - 23/03/2010 06:09:27 PM 571 Views
"Should've" versus "should of" Bored - 23/03/2010 06:46:37 PM 677 Views
Sounds like we're on thee same page. Joel - 23/03/2010 06:58:21 PM 733 Views
I tend to use both Isaac - 23/03/2010 10:06:01 PM 660 Views
I think that there are people who pronounce The with that convention LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 02:47:59 PM 701 Views
Unfortunately you chose two very bad examples. Tim - 23/03/2010 02:48:42 PM 899 Views
British English is weird oO LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 02:59:49 PM 691 Views
I don't. Tim - 23/03/2010 03:04:22 PM 695 Views
Right Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 03:10:08 PM 659 Views
duly noted LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:10:16 PM 641 Views
I do! Liam - 23/03/2010 10:57:48 PM 661 Views
Shut up, Frenchie! LiterateDog - 23/03/2010 11:03:21 PM 636 Views
Hehe ironclad - 23/03/2010 03:06:31 PM 619 Views
"Park Life!" *NM* Tim - 23/03/2010 03:09:24 PM 265 Views
*NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 03:10:35 PM 321 Views
Heh, thanks for bringing this up. *NM* Avendesora - 23/03/2010 04:37:07 PM 336 Views
That was my immediate reaction to this post! *NM* Tom - 23/03/2010 05:21:16 PM 388 Views
"y" is a consonant? or the "u" sound Aeryn - 23/03/2010 09:02:57 PM 800 Views
Hopefully this will explain. Tim - 23/03/2010 11:29:58 PM 718 Views
Re: Hopefully this will explain. Aeryn - 25/03/2010 08:40:21 PM 886 Views
I've only just discovered I do it. Liam - 23/03/2010 11:02:18 PM 602 Views
AH! globug0822 - 26/03/2010 11:48:35 AM 574 Views
Whatever the nativespeakers say Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:01:16 PM 658 Views
Do you mean "consistent"? If not, I can't work out what you mean by "consequent". Tim - 23/03/2010 05:05:38 PM 598 Views
I can testify that that one is a terribly annoying false friend in Dutch. And apparently in Swedish. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:10:03 PM 756 Views
What do people confuse "eventual" with? "Eventful"? Tim - 23/03/2010 05:12:02 PM 620 Views
You never realize even the most obvious of these things in your own language. Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:16:35 PM 674 Views
"Gift" has amused me ever since I started learning German. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:39:48 PM 564 Views
*NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 07:45:48 PM 312 Views
Oh, it must be an incredibly important word to know when visiting Europe. Sophy - 23/03/2010 08:12:19 PM 671 Views
Even so. Joel - 23/03/2010 08:29:52 PM 678 Views
I wasnt invited! Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:04:16 PM 653 Views
You were so. Joel - 23/03/2010 09:05:58 PM 612 Views
No, I better finish my stupid essay! Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:08:06 PM 679 Views
I can't imagine a world where that could possibly be as rewarding or invigorating as my company. Joel - 23/03/2010 09:11:49 PM 614 Views
Nah, it's not about EFL, it's about Dutch-English false friends. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:17:28 PM 784 Views
Wait! The English eventual doesnt mean that? Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:21:19 PM 631 Views
English "eventual" means something like "in the end". Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:23:33 PM 629 Views
Whoops! Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:26:05 PM 690 Views
I think the English "eventual" applies to something that is more certain (or assumed) in the future Sareitha Sedai - 23/03/2010 05:25:39 PM 587 Views
LOL what is it with you today?? *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 07:57:33 PM 340 Views
You mean that I'm usually brighter? Sophy - 23/03/2010 08:13:04 PM 668 Views
How would you translate eventueel into English? "Potential"? "The possibility of"? Tim - 23/03/2010 05:23:58 PM 728 Views
I think I'd ditch the adjective and switch the sentence around to a different construction. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:33:19 PM 797 Views
Do you only use it for future? Or all possible things that may or may not be? Camilla - 23/03/2010 10:27:16 PM 659 Views
Dutch is way closer to Norwegian than to Danish. Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:07:51 PM 607 Views
Re: Dutch is way closer to Norwegian than to Danish. Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:09:54 PM 711 Views
*nods* Similar, but not the same, then. Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:12:37 PM 644 Views
Re: *nods* Similar, but not the same, then. Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:22:52 PM 580 Views
Isn't that T an adverbial marker, then? Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:28:01 PM 655 Views
tim might be able to answer that better than me, as he probably understands what you are referringto Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:33:07 PM 592 Views
Re: Isn't that T an adverbial marker, then? Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:39:37 PM 677 Views
Re: Isn't that T an adverbial marker, then? Camilla - 23/03/2010 11:42:29 PM 1024 Views
Nah, I know, that's why I said "eventuell" was a bad example - it makes no sense as a predicate. Legolas - 23/03/2010 11:51:06 PM 733 Views
I would come in and lay the smackdown, but unfortunately I have to leave in a few minutes. Tim - 24/03/2010 09:27:28 AM 565 Views
Re: I would come in and lay the smackdown, but unfortunately I have to leave in a few minutes. Camilla - 25/03/2010 12:15:14 PM 678 Views
Ah, that's the right word, yes. Sophy - 23/03/2010 05:10:19 PM 629 Views
konsekvent Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:22:26 PM 630 Views
We need to make a Dutch-Norwegian-Swedish mixture language to replace English, clearly. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 06:27:23 PM 415 Views
Re: We need to make a Dutch-Norwegian-Swedish mixture language to replace English, clearly. Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:28:47 PM 744 Views
This is an excellent point. Legolas - 23/03/2010 08:23:42 PM 530 Views
*clears throat* *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 07:58:21 PM 319 Views
Okay, we'll let Austrian join too. Legolas - 23/03/2010 08:00:26 PM 547 Views
Why dilute a perfectly good language with norwegian, dutch and austrian? *NM* jh - 23/03/2010 08:12:40 PM 374 Views
Cool! I'm in! Sophy - 23/03/2010 08:16:32 PM 638 Views
I've no doubt its grammar is awesome... making more sense, that sounds rather less likely. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 08:23:10 PM 366 Views
Don't listen to her ironclad - 23/03/2010 08:24:06 PM 595 Views
Hmpf! Böse Kartoffel! Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:05:37 PM 693 Views
Like Esperanto but with germanic roots? Me likey! *NM* Floffe - 24/03/2010 04:43:59 PM 357 Views
Nopes. nossy - 23/03/2010 05:03:18 PM 627 Views
In my dialect, it's more or less like that Larry - 23/03/2010 05:35:31 PM 550 Views
I don't, but I'm American, and apparently that makes the difference. Joel - 23/03/2010 05:55:10 PM 692 Views
Try it with a bunch of words starting with vowels, then. Legolas - 23/03/2010 05:59:03 PM 595 Views
"thuh" for the first two, seems like "thee" for the rest. Joel - 23/03/2010 06:08:14 PM 697 Views
The (thuh) for all of them. everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:53:16 PM 636 Views
Thee for all of them *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 09:54:58 PM 360 Views
Me too. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 09:59:16 PM 331 Views
Thee for all! o/ Avendesora - 24/03/2010 08:37:23 PM 675 Views
I don't know if we need to, but it would sound silly if we didn't ßelals Girl - 23/03/2010 06:05:53 PM 612 Views
Re: I don't know if we need to, but it would sound silly if we didn't Lordling - 23/03/2010 06:26:30 PM 799 Views
Just go with instinct Rebekah - 23/03/2010 06:29:52 PM 633 Views
Quit while you're behind... Tom - 23/03/2010 08:58:26 PM 647 Views
Unless you like to use archaic English, that is Larry - 23/03/2010 09:20:26 PM 626 Views
I somehow doubt that Lordling - 25/03/2010 08:09:44 PM 773 Views
I like it Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:23:06 PM 638 Views
You sound like him Lordling - 23/03/2010 06:32:09 PM 667 Views
Re: You sound like him Camilla - 23/03/2010 06:33:03 PM 707 Views
Oh!!! That's just the kind of teacher I'm going to be! *NM* Sophy - 23/03/2010 09:06:26 PM 491 Views
Haha good stuff *NM* ironclad - 23/03/2010 09:24:37 PM 337 Views
Never heard of that before. *NM* Wibble - 23/03/2010 08:18:48 PM 249 Views
I do it AgentOrange - 23/03/2010 09:32:04 PM 578 Views
Same here. *NM* Legolas - 23/03/2010 09:33:51 PM 358 Views
Thuh is what most people I know use although I find that more educated people use thee at times. everynametaken - 23/03/2010 09:58:57 PM 634 Views
I have never heard that before in my life. globug0822 - 26/03/2010 11:46:44 AM 793 Views
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