At worst, I'd say the commercial is a little crude (calling music black or white instead of soulful/contemporary or classic), but Dutch people probably have a crude exposure to diversity.
What does that mean?
' />I just went back and read my post and I can see how that last statement might be offensive. I only meant that there is probably a lot less diversity in the Dutch community (where black people are concerned, at least) than in America. I don't have the stats at hand, but I'm pretty sure America is a lot more racially sensitive (due to our history and high minority populations) than a lot of european nations. Take a look at the Spanish National basketball team's photoshoot for the '08 Olympics in Beijing.
What I was trying to say in the post was that calling something "black" isn't racially hateful, i.e. racist. It might be insensitive though to some people who don't want to be characterized by their race, but unless there's hate or degradation behind it, it's not racist.
I think a lot of great jazz artists who aren't black, would say the add is crude and stupid, but the fact remains african-american people largely created jazz/soulful music.
Again, I hearken to my table example. I made a table so it's ok if you call it Alex's table, but I wouldn't appreciate it if you called it Alex's table and made it synonymous with something stupid or defective.
Maybe dutch people have a strong association with soulful r and b or jazz music and black people, I'm not sure. But if that's the case, then I don't see it is racist at all. Asians are often depicted as martial artists even though there are many non-asian martial artists. This isn't racist at all, though it may be racially insensitive in some cases.
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Is it racist?: Commercial for Jazz/Soul radio
- 22/03/2010 01:47:45 PM
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I don't think it's racist at all
- 22/03/2010 07:15:55 PM
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Uh.
- 22/03/2010 09:36:35 PM
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Re: Uh.
- 29/03/2010 07:03:14 PM
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I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim
- 29/03/2010 07:20:09 PM
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Re: I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim
- 29/03/2010 07:28:34 PM
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Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here
- 29/03/2010 07:46:15 PM
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Re: Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here
- 29/03/2010 07:53:56 PM
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This. ~points at Larry's post~ *NM*
- 29/03/2010 07:42:35 PM
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Re: This. ~points at Larry's post~
- 29/03/2010 07:57:30 PM
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Um.
- 29/03/2010 08:00:54 PM
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Re: Um.
- 29/03/2010 08:44:31 PM
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My question for you was on that one line that Larry responded to.
- 29/03/2010 08:46:26 PM
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She agrees with you about it not being racist - she had issues with your "crude" comment.
- 29/03/2010 08:59:44 PM
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I don't see it
- 22/03/2010 08:19:31 PM
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i'd say the actions in the commercial are more racist than the words
- 22/03/2010 10:00:02 PM
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It would not float here in the US
- 22/03/2010 10:07:08 PM
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Agreed.
- 23/03/2010 05:36:14 AM
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Could you please expand on one point in your reasoning?
- 23/03/2010 07:20:31 AM
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It's not race specific music if it's enjoyed/performed/presented by various races.
- 23/03/2010 07:32:33 AM
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MOBO
- 23/03/2010 10:20:22 AM
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The trouble lies in historical neuroses cooked in our melting pot, I think.
- 23/03/2010 11:29:06 AM
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Only if it's racist to mention the fact that different races exist. Which seems to be the US view.
- 23/03/2010 09:24:23 AM
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Agreed
- 23/03/2010 10:21:59 AM
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Some people are like that, yes, but at least it isn't the "accepted" media position. Yet. *NM*
- 23/03/2010 11:01:47 AM
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Not at all, the problem is when people seem to say something is exclusive to a given race.
- 23/03/2010 11:51:06 AM
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I agree with some of what you say, but I think you're assuming more than is warranted.
- 23/03/2010 02:33:34 PM
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