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An illustration of Larry's point... Legolas Send a noteboard - 29/03/2010 08:14:55 PM
A number of years ago, a Republican senator called George Allen referred to an Indian American man as "macaca" in public. Which was correctly interpreted as a rather racist remark, and Allen got into trouble for it, but most people's reaction was like "uh, what does that mean?" - and Allen claimed he hadn't known what it meant when he used it. In my country, there wouldn't have been any hesitation or claims of ignorance as to what it meant, because racists on the far right have used that word (a macaca is a kind of monkey) to refer to the Arabic and Turkish minorities here in the past (now the politicians have moderated their language, but I'm sure some of their supporters still use the word).

Just goes to show that, as Larry says, there are racial tensions of a different nature, and that a word or concept that's really offensive in one country can be much less so in another one. Since Europe's racial minorities are primarily Middle Eastern, they are the ones that most racial tensions are about. Black and Asian people are much less numerous on the whole - although individual countries like France, the UK and indeed the Netherlands have sizeable black populations - and so things are much less delicate there. Although you're right that soccer players of African origin used to encounter racist remarks a lot - there have been some ugly sides to soccer matches in the past, they're trying to put an end to the violence and the racism but they aren't entirely there yet.
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Is it racist?: Commercial for Jazz/Soul radio - 22/03/2010 01:47:45 PM 2943 Views
I'd say that's pretty racist. - 22/03/2010 01:53:59 PM 857 Views
I don't think it's racist at all - 22/03/2010 07:15:55 PM 914 Views
Uh. - 22/03/2010 09:36:35 PM 1003 Views
Re: Uh. - 29/03/2010 07:03:14 PM 948 Views
I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim - 29/03/2010 07:20:09 PM 864 Views
Re: I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim - 29/03/2010 07:28:34 PM 978 Views
Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:46:15 PM 801 Views
Re: Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:53:56 PM 765 Views
An illustration of Larry's point... - 29/03/2010 08:14:55 PM 825 Views
This. ~points at Larry's post~ *NM* - 29/03/2010 07:42:35 PM 479 Views
Re: This. ~points at Larry's post~ - 29/03/2010 07:57:30 PM 849 Views
Um. - 29/03/2010 08:00:54 PM 998 Views
Re: Um. - 29/03/2010 08:44:31 PM 799 Views
My question for you was on that one line that Larry responded to. - 29/03/2010 08:46:26 PM 835 Views
I was thinking the same thing as Rebekah - 23/03/2010 07:15:51 AM 858 Views
I don't see it - 22/03/2010 08:19:31 PM 866 Views
+1 *NM* - 22/03/2010 08:30:01 PM 461 Views
Re: +2 *NM* - 22/03/2010 09:53:43 PM 464 Views
Re: +3 *NM* - 22/03/2010 10:00:55 PM 442 Views
i'd say the actions in the commercial are more racist than the words - 22/03/2010 10:00:02 PM 829 Views
It would not float here in the US - 22/03/2010 10:07:08 PM 853 Views
Agreed. - 23/03/2010 05:36:14 AM 1011 Views
Could you please expand on one point in your reasoning? - 23/03/2010 07:20:31 AM 869 Views
It's not race specific music if it's enjoyed/performed/presented by various races. - 23/03/2010 07:32:33 AM 1100 Views
MOBO - 23/03/2010 10:20:22 AM 801 Views
Nice term, if a bit clumsy - 23/03/2010 11:10:34 AM 823 Views
The trouble lies in historical neuroses cooked in our melting pot, I think. - 23/03/2010 11:29:06 AM 850 Views
I suspect so as well - 23/03/2010 12:32:00 PM 957 Views
Well, the thing is, "American" is PURELY a culture, not a race. - 23/03/2010 01:55:59 PM 1087 Views
That's part of what I was thinking - 23/03/2010 07:50:19 AM 1194 Views
Only if it's racist to mention the fact that different races exist. Which seems to be the US view. - 23/03/2010 09:24:23 AM 841 Views
Agreed - 23/03/2010 10:21:59 AM 876 Views
Not at all, the problem is when people seem to say something is exclusive to a given race. - 23/03/2010 11:51:06 AM 1106 Views
I agree with some of what you say, but I think you're assuming more than is warranted. - 23/03/2010 02:33:34 PM 811 Views
perhaps not as default... - 23/03/2010 03:08:19 PM 891 Views
The term encompasses listeners, performers and presenters. - 23/03/2010 04:42:55 PM 905 Views
So it's really not about skin color any more, right? - 23/03/2010 09:12:20 PM 931 Views
it's racist and unacceptable. - 23/03/2010 09:07:10 PM 968 Views

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