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That's basically what I meant. lord-of-shadow Send a noteboard - 25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM
I just didn't quite state that I meant that those factors are there to prop up an otherwise unremarkable story and provide some sort of... story handle to latch onto the plot with.
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So being a FF fan and never having played FF 12... Dark Knight - 24/09/2009 10:25:44 PM 1225 Views
The story in FF12 leaves much to be desired Dragonsworn - 24/09/2009 10:41:28 PM 1204 Views
I love FF but I didn't even bother to finish 12 *NM* Marius2000 - 24/09/2009 10:45:55 PM 511 Views
You're not alone- the characters just didn't click for me, nor did the plot beetnemesis - 24/09/2009 11:16:11 PM 1034 Views
Videogame stories suck the big one, with VERY few exceptions. Joker - 25/09/2009 12:29:39 AM 1096 Views
FF7?!?! You're a nutcase! Kotagg - 25/09/2009 01:50:16 AM 990 Views
It was still good though Brian - 26/09/2009 03:06:12 AM 895 Views
Fair enough. Maybe I'm proving my own point. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:46:26 AM 1071 Views
I will have to disagree with this... MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:20:46 AM 948 Views
Exactly. When I think story here, I think of the individual stories as well as the whole. Kotagg - 26/09/2009 07:13:24 PM 1085 Views
Still, it's good for a videogame story. Joker - 26/09/2009 07:54:01 PM 1012 Views
I agree, with caveat. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:54:25 PM 1120 Views
New games do not feature the storytelling prowess of good TV, films, or novels. Joker - 28/09/2009 01:03:46 AM 1029 Views
I disagree. Maybe you're playing the wrong games. *NM* Cymbaline - 28/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 514 Views
What is the videogame equivalent of The Godfather, The Wire, or Great Expectations? *NM* Joker - 01/10/2009 03:31:37 AM 538 Views
Ah, I see. *NM* Joker - 03/10/2009 08:02:28 PM 538 Views
Say what? Cymbaline - 04/10/2009 02:21:01 PM 939 Views
"Ah, I see" means "You haven't answered because there is no satisfactory answer." Joker - 05/10/2009 07:06:03 AM 965 Views
So you expect me to reply within two days when it took you three? Cymbaline - 05/10/2009 10:29:27 PM 931 Views
I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one Joker - 06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM 1019 Views
I... don't think you understand how this works. Cymbaline - 06/10/2009 11:41:12 PM 966 Views
Anything of worth? Joker - 09/10/2009 03:24:42 AM 960 Views
Cymbaline is right. Some games have excellent stories. MightyYT - 29/09/2009 10:44:16 AM 956 Views
And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM 1080 Views
The extras lower peoples' standards, but I DO think it's still the story. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:34:30 AM 968 Views
That's basically what I meant. lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM 934 Views
Yeah I understand. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:18:34 AM 1038 Views
You are correct. But it sounds like semantics to me, since in practice... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 06:00:41 AM 968 Views
I suppose it is, at that. Aemon - 25/09/2009 01:58:25 PM 1009 Views
Well said. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:48:10 AM 961 Views
I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned... MightyYT - 25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM 958 Views
I agree. *NM* Manusho - 25/09/2009 02:44:08 AM 631 Views
The grid was fine, but didn't scale well. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:35:57 AM 969 Views
I'll agree with this point, but I also agree with most of the thoughts of the GP Jragghen - 25/09/2009 05:26:18 PM 1054 Views
I am glad that at least one person here is with me on this. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:53:42 AM 996 Views
It's interesting.... lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:55:18 PM 1025 Views
Plot doesn't kick in until later on, sadly Jragghen - 26/09/2009 07:27:55 PM 983 Views
I partially agree with LoS, and I partially disagree with you. Cymbaline - 27/09/2009 12:07:07 AM 1138 Views
Opinion mine: 12 was a great game, and a terrible Final Fantasy. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:03:28 AM 1049 Views
I didn't like it and didn't finish *NM* Deadsy - 25/09/2009 05:34:42 AM 496 Views
i finished it recently and i found it allright Yunalesca - 25/09/2009 11:30:36 AM 1255 Views
Final Fantasy XII was the best written FF ever, by far. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:47:27 AM 1072 Views
I agree with this. MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:22:40 AM 1024 Views
LOL... FFXII was the best FFXII ever? TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 03:43:11 PM 960 Views
That was juvenile, TMJ. Also, he said best written FF. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:58:12 PM 530 Views
Yes, it was funny on a juvenile level. TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 07:11:12 PM 999 Views
Ah, I must have missed the typo. lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 08:32:51 PM 1035 Views
So much confusion everywhere! Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:48:32 PM 1046 Views
Some of us --I'd even say MOST of us-- like that, though. Aemon - 26/09/2009 07:20:55 PM 1078 Views
Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ... The_Muted_Grimaud - 28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM 1279 Views
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