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Well said. Joker Send a noteboard - 26/09/2009 06:48:10 AM
Maybe the MGS story would be ridiculous to me now. MGS4's story certainly was. Then again, MGS wasn't nearly as Japanese as MGS4.

Videogames are definitely the little stepbrother of storytelling mediums right now.
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So being a FF fan and never having played FF 12... Dark Knight - 24/09/2009 10:25:44 PM 1092 Views
The story in FF12 leaves much to be desired Dragonsworn - 24/09/2009 10:41:28 PM 1064 Views
I love FF but I didn't even bother to finish 12 *NM* Marius2000 - 24/09/2009 10:45:55 PM 448 Views
You're not alone- the characters just didn't click for me, nor did the plot beetnemesis - 24/09/2009 11:16:11 PM 915 Views
Videogame stories suck the big one, with VERY few exceptions. Joker - 25/09/2009 12:29:39 AM 972 Views
FF7?!?! You're a nutcase! Kotagg - 25/09/2009 01:50:16 AM 879 Views
It was still good though Brian - 26/09/2009 03:06:12 AM 766 Views
Fair enough. Maybe I'm proving my own point. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:46:26 AM 937 Views
I will have to disagree with this... MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:20:46 AM 828 Views
Exactly. When I think story here, I think of the individual stories as well as the whole. Kotagg - 26/09/2009 07:13:24 PM 949 Views
Still, it's good for a videogame story. Joker - 26/09/2009 07:54:01 PM 883 Views
I agree, with caveat. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:54:25 PM 985 Views
New games do not feature the storytelling prowess of good TV, films, or novels. Joker - 28/09/2009 01:03:46 AM 907 Views
I disagree. Maybe you're playing the wrong games. *NM* Cymbaline - 28/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 432 Views
What is the videogame equivalent of The Godfather, The Wire, or Great Expectations? *NM* Joker - 01/10/2009 03:31:37 AM 465 Views
Ah, I see. *NM* Joker - 03/10/2009 08:02:28 PM 466 Views
Say what? Cymbaline - 04/10/2009 02:21:01 PM 826 Views
"Ah, I see" means "You haven't answered because there is no satisfactory answer." Joker - 05/10/2009 07:06:03 AM 850 Views
So you expect me to reply within two days when it took you three? Cymbaline - 05/10/2009 10:29:27 PM 809 Views
I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one Joker - 06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM 900 Views
I... don't think you understand how this works. Cymbaline - 06/10/2009 11:41:12 PM 842 Views
Anything of worth? Joker - 09/10/2009 03:24:42 AM 826 Views
Cymbaline is right. Some games have excellent stories. MightyYT - 29/09/2009 10:44:16 AM 820 Views
And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM 939 Views
The extras lower peoples' standards, but I DO think it's still the story. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:34:30 AM 842 Views
That's basically what I meant. lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM 806 Views
Yeah I understand. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:18:34 AM 909 Views
You are correct. But it sounds like semantics to me, since in practice... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 06:00:41 AM 850 Views
I suppose it is, at that. Aemon - 25/09/2009 01:58:25 PM 899 Views
Well said. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:48:10 AM 854 Views
I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned... MightyYT - 25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM 832 Views
I agree. *NM* Manusho - 25/09/2009 02:44:08 AM 540 Views
The grid was fine, but didn't scale well. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:35:57 AM 826 Views
I'll agree with this point, but I also agree with most of the thoughts of the GP Jragghen - 25/09/2009 05:26:18 PM 912 Views
I am glad that at least one person here is with me on this. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:53:42 AM 877 Views
It's interesting.... lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:55:18 PM 893 Views
Plot doesn't kick in until later on, sadly Jragghen - 26/09/2009 07:27:55 PM 844 Views
I partially agree with LoS, and I partially disagree with you. Cymbaline - 27/09/2009 12:07:07 AM 960 Views
Opinion mine: 12 was a great game, and a terrible Final Fantasy. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:03:28 AM 918 Views
I didn't like it and didn't finish *NM* Deadsy - 25/09/2009 05:34:42 AM 430 Views
i finished it recently and i found it allright Yunalesca - 25/09/2009 11:30:36 AM 1116 Views
Final Fantasy XII was the best written FF ever, by far. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:47:27 AM 905 Views
I agree with this. MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:22:40 AM 898 Views
LOL... FFXII was the best FFXII ever? TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 03:43:11 PM 851 Views
That was juvenile, TMJ. Also, he said best written FF. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:58:12 PM 466 Views
Yes, it was funny on a juvenile level. TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 07:11:12 PM 848 Views
Ah, I must have missed the typo. lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 08:32:51 PM 919 Views
So much confusion everywhere! Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:48:32 PM 929 Views
Some of us --I'd even say MOST of us-- like that, though. Aemon - 26/09/2009 07:20:55 PM 923 Views
Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ... The_Muted_Grimaud - 28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM 1121 Views
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